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#1 LuMA

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Posted 15 October 2015 - 15:54

When the color you bought is just not perfect... what ink do you use to fix it?

What does this ink do to improve the not-so-perfect ink? Does it darken the color? Make it lighter? Brighter? Tones it down a bit? Etc.

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Posted 15 October 2015 - 15:59

mixing inks is kinda hard... <_< >_> I can deal with saturated colors but less saturated colors are like a pain especially the pink ones

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Posted 15 October 2015 - 16:53

mixing inks is kinda hard... <_< >_> I can deal with saturated colors but less saturated colors are like a pain especially the pink ones

 

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I agree - the inks with low dye-load can be a bit tricky to get the ratio of inks.

 

As your experience with the Pink inks indicated, when the hue is pale / elusive, giving it just a 'nudge' can be exasperating. One thing I've done when just nudging the hue is to dilute the nudging ink (with the lowest % in the blend) before adding to the main ink.

 

So rather than working along a straight line, there's a bit of triangulation, which just might get you where you want a bit faster — or at least let you know if the two inks (+water) you're working will eventually get you to the desired hue. Sometimes you cannot get there from here.

 

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Posted 15 October 2015 - 23:50

It depends on what direction I wish to nudge the ink.

I mixed Diamine Evergreen with Diamine Green-black, to darken it in my Prima F nib. Normally D. Evergreen IS a dark green when wet.  It really depends on color and pen usage for me. I nudge inks every which way because for me it is fun.


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Posted 18 October 2015 - 01:28

I find I'm generally adding water. This is especially true of some of the super saturated Noodler's inks. If I need to go darker I'll usually use Noodler's Black as I like it's lubrication and waterproofness (of course, be careful whenever mixing). Surprisingly, I accidentally inked up a pen with Montblanc Royal Blue that was already partially inked with Diamine Ancient Copper. The result was a beautiful purple that reminded me of a brighter R&K Sciabosa. (Not posting in the Inky Recipe section as I have no clue what the % of the mix was -- mostly Royal Blue obvi). 


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#6 amberleadavis

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Posted 18 October 2015 - 05:36

I find myself adding Nooder's Navajo Turquoise, LCR or Cactus Fruit Eel to a lot of inks - just because.

 

Then, I find that I add Ghost blue - just because - and it improves resilience. It also makes the ink dryer.  

 

If it needs to be wetter or more resilient, then De Atramentis Document Turquoise or Magenta.


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Posted 18 October 2015 - 05:37

BTW, Sandy may be the one who explained this on another thread, remember to mix cymk colors and not ryb colors to get nice crisp colors.


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Posted 18 October 2015 - 22:34

I have heard of photo flow being added to certain inks. Not too sure what it is or does but I am curious to find out.

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Posted 18 October 2015 - 23:18

I have heard of photo flow being added to certain inks. Not too sure what it is or does but I am curious to find out.

 

It's a product made by Organics Studio that makes inks more lubricated. However, it's really concentrated. Just dipping a syringe needle tip in is enough to add to a vial full of a dry ink.

 

I always add it when I use PPS or PPR



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Posted 18 October 2015 - 23:46

 

It's a product made by Organics Studio that makes inks more lubricated. However, it's really concentrated. Just dipping a syringe needle tip in is enough to add to a vial full of a dry ink.

 

I always add it when I use PPS or PPR

 

No, is not a product by Organic Studios.  Is a product by Kodak.  Photo-Flow is a wettening agent, it decreases the surface tension of water making the ink to flow more freely.

 

Sandy1 has a post somewhere that explains the dilution process of Photo-Flow to make it ready to use.  It is very easy to totally make an ink unusable if you don't follow proper dilution steps.

 

 

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Posted 19 October 2015 - 01:56

Thank you for posting a picture of the actual bottle & label.  I have looked @ this previously but have been quite confused over the options available.  After this information I first tried Amazon & was less than enthusiastic ober the shipping charge being equal to the price of the product.  Minutes later after a good Googling

I had the name of a camera supply shop called "DC or District Camera" in Burke, VA, which did indeed offer the identical product (same CAT # !) at a similar price but @ $6.00 less shipping charge!  They did offer a variety of expedited shipping options but since I currently had NO Photo Flo I am happy to await it's arrival in 3-5 days.  

 

AND I owe it all to  Cyber6 for her usual gracious sharing from her "immense Vault of information! "  

 

ALL MY INKS WILL FLOW like the AMAZON!  (I will certainly read Sandy1's post for "proper instruction" less they FLOW right OFF the PAPER onto the floor.)



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Posted 19 October 2015 - 02:43

ALL MY INKS WILL FLOW like the AMAZON!  (I will certainly read Sandy1's post for "proper instruction" less they FLOW right OFF the PAPER onto the floor.)

 

Please do... I totally ruined a bottle of Ambre de Birmanie (which I love) by adding a pin drop of it.   No jokes.  :bawl: :bawl:

 

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Posted 19 October 2015 - 03:02

Apparently Organics Studio had (has?) a flow enhancer / biocide product called Flo-Plus.


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Posted 20 October 2015 - 16:59

@Cyber: Do you dilute it in water first or add it to the ink in teeny tiny quatities?

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Posted 20 October 2015 - 18:07

@Cyber: Do you dilute it in water first or add it to the ink in teeny tiny quatities?

 

 

Dilute with distilled water FIRST.  Again.. there is a very detailed post from Sandy1 on how to dilute to a level where you can add tiny quantities.  Photo-Flo is very concentrated, a pin drop can be too much.

 

 

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Posted 20 October 2015 - 20:52

Found it. Thanks Cyber!

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Posted 20 October 2015 - 22:02

 

 

I came this close to binning my troublesome bottle of Noodler's 54th. It hard started in everything I used it in but I loved the colour and adored it's robustness so, with the help of some donated Photo Flo, I followed Sandy1's above recommendations to the letter and now have a usable, reliable version Noodler's 54th - and a shedload of Photo Flo Mix to come to the rescue in future.

 

(Let me know if you'd like some diluted mix)

 

 

 

 



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Posted 20 October 2015 - 22:05

I came this close to binning my troublesome bottle of Noodler's 54th. It hard started in everything I used it in but I loved the colour and adored it's robustness so, with the help of some donated Photo Flo, I followed Sandy1's above recommendations to the letter and now have a usable, reliable version Noodler's 54th - and a shedload of Photo Flo Mix to come to the rescue in future.
 
(Let me know if you'd like some diluted mix)


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Posted 20 October 2015 - 22:43

 

 

I came this close to binning my troublesome bottle of Noodler's 54th. It hard started in everything I used it in but I loved the colour and adored it's robustness so, with the help of some donated Photo Flo, I followed Sandy1's above recommendations to the letter and now have a usable, reliable version Noodler's 54th - and a shedload of Photo Flo Mix to come to the rescue in future.

 

(Let me know if you'd like some diluted mix)

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted 20 October 2015 - 23:13

Tas, do you recall how many drops of which percentage solution you added to 54th Massachusetts?


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