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I sometimes see Pelikan M1000 advertised as being Sue Belem. Who or what is Sue Belem?

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sargetalon Antique

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That's a new one on me. I have never seen that terminology before. Do you have some examples where it is employed? In what context?

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See it on some auctions from Japanese sellers, I'm thinking it's the Japanese Katakana スーベレーン [su-BeRe-n] for Souverän being translated back to English.

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zchen,

I think you nailed it! I see Sue Belem used on a popular auction site. I just visited it again and that description was from a Japanese seller. I also say Suberen used.

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I can't stop laughing about that.

 

Maybe it is the same with Japanese pens: Pilot Prera translated back to Japanese makes maybe no sense at all. Or Sailor Regulus.

You just have to love fountain pens and human languages. Great story.

 

I love you, Sue Belem! :lol:

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Sounds like a very reasonable explanation. I will think of Sue Belem now whenever I see Souverän. Languages can be so interesting.

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All the Sue Belems I've ever seen sure are sexy....LOL. What a funny way to translate a word. I've heard "that word doesn't really translate in my language" before...guess the Japanese just try anyway when there's no equivalent!

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I will think of Sue Belem now whenever I see Souverän.

 

Yes, I'm sure I will too now. :lol:

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Almost completely off topic...

 

Just finished reading "Berlin Diary" by William L. Shirer. He mentions that one of Hitler's favorite movies was "Gone With the Wind." Shirer noted that the German title of the movie, translated back into English, was "by the wind blown about."

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This thread title (and content/explanation)...takes top prize, in my book, for most amusing thread in an age!

 

Aragato, Sue Belem/Berem!

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Almost completely off topic...

 

Just finished reading "Berlin Diary" by William L. Shirer. He mentions that one of Hitler's favorite movies was "Gone With the Wind." Shirer noted that the German title of the movie, translated back into English, was "by the wind blown about."

 

But "by the wind blown about" sounds very nice in German, very poetic, because it uses a lot of similar sounds. Little bit like an alliteration.

"Vom Winde verweht" if someone wants to know.

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Sounds like a very reasonable explanation. I will think of Sue Belem now whenever I see Souverän. Languages can be so interesting.

I got to go on a trip to the Soviet Union, back in 1976. The Cyrillic alphabet is naturally very different from the Western one. But we very quickly learned that something that *looked* like it was saying something like "Pectapah" really meant "Restaurant"....

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Another variation today: Smaragdgrün

 

and this is from a German seller.

 

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Another variation today: Smaragdgrün

 

and this is from a German seller.

 

Smaragdgrün is exactly translated as emerald green. "Grün" is "green", and "Smaragd" is that green precious stone ...

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"Quantum Mechanics"

 

(inspired by a German haiku by Tony Böhle)

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Smaragdgrün is exactly translated as emerald green. "Grün" is "green", and "Smaragd" is that green precious stone ...

 

+1. exact translation.

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