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#1 Jarwolf

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Posted 12 August 2015 - 02:01

Hello everyone! I am Jarwolf! I saw a fountain pen online browsing for something to purchase for a hobby. I saw an advertisement saying "Fountain Pen's 60% off" I thought to myself.."Hmm, what in the world could a fountain pen be?" *click link*

 

   I saw an odd looking tip. Okay...I think I will buy it and see what it does! Sadly to say, it did not come with any ink at all, just the pen!  :( 

 

Here is a little story why I got this and why I am here today needing help!

Okay, so I made up the name Jarwolf, because my first name is Jared, also..well...hehe, I LOVE WOLVES WITH A PASSION!!! awhoooooo!!!!!  
  I am terrified and HATE needles! I wish to get a wolf tattoo on my left arm. I thought to myself, "This pen may work if..." (((bleep), what ink...what bran!!!?! ahhhhhhhh)).

 

So, my question is...Where can I find ink that will work in my fountain pen that is black and permanent such as "indelible ink", or ink that will NOT go away or fade when I go to take a shower and if I were to constantly scrub on the area where I drew the 'tattoo' on my arm. Please help me; my beautiful fountain pen users! Also, a link (if allowed) for the ink that I just described (if there is one!--There has to be! :\ !) 

Here is the DESCRIPTION of the pen that I have bought, I will also have pictures attached to this.


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Classic Smooth Writing Pen, 18k gold-plated stainless steel nib,ink Cartridge International Standard, Removable Converter and Refillable, cap type:push.
 
What does "ink cartridge international Standard" mean as well as "cap type:push"? 
How am I supposed to refill this as well?  EDIT:: Would I be able to put different NIBS on sense it is unscrewable//comes off???

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#2 Chthulhu

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Posted 12 August 2015 - 02:48

First, welcome aboard!

 

You won't find an ink that is *that* permanent that will work in your new pen. The only reason tattoo inks are (mostly) permanent is that they are placed beneath the skin where they can't be removed, and won't simply come off with the normal shedding of skin cells. Fountain pen inks are water based, and even the "permanent" varieties will be lost from skin fairly quickly.

 

I would recommend looking into a dip pen and some india ink for your skin art experiments.

 

If you want to write with your pen on paper, though, there are plenty of inks available, both in bottles with which you can fill that converter shown in the image of the disassembled pen, and in cartridges. "standard international" short cartridges are the most common and readily available type. Diamine, Kaweco, J. Herbin, and a slew of other companies put ink into these cartridges.

 

Here's what they look like: http://www.jetpens.c...-of-18/pd/10167

 

Cartridges from many pen makers are proprietary to those companies' pens, and will *not* work in yours.

 

The standard cartridges, or that converter, simply fit into the back of the nib section, over a small nipple inside. Cartridges can simply be replaced when empty, or refilled with a syringe. The converter is used to fill the pen by first installing it in the nib section, then turning its knob counterclockwise until it stops. Dip the nib into a bottle of ink until the nib and front of the section are submerged, then turn the knob clockwise until it stops. Take the pen slowly out of the ink, letting it drip a bit, then gently wipe the nib and section clean with a rag or paper towel.

 

Screw the barrel on, and you're probably ready to write, barring any functional issues with the pen.

 

I don't *think* your pen will easily accept other nibs, or at least none that will simply screw in.

 

Oh, and "push cap" simply means that the cap pushes on and pulls off the pen, rather than screwing on and off.


Edited by Chthulhu, 12 August 2015 - 02:50.

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#3 Jarwolf

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Posted 12 August 2015 - 03:51

Thank you so much for the response! That is a bummer, but hey, I am looking into attempting to draw.. not so good at it at all but practice makes perfect! As to the fake tattooing (lol), is there a ink without water or just a little to where it doesn't wash off right away? (I'm sure if the ink has no water it just won't be watered down enough to even flow out of the pen but I am not sure,) That is awesome! I didn't know the pen can do both. How long would the ink take to refil is using the converter? If I may ask.



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Posted 12 August 2015 - 04:04

I am seeing Iron Gall Ink; however; it says it may ruin the nib. It says steel nibs may get damaged;though, the one i have is stainless steel, I do not know if that makes a difference in the acts of using Iron Gall Ink I heard it was a somewhat permanent ink;though I am seeing that the pH level is acidic;so maybe look for one that isn't so it does not effect my skin if I were to draw on it. (((Just Ideas, sorry for the spam!)))



#5 NinthSphere

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Posted 12 August 2015 - 06:53

I **really** don't think your going to get what you want tattoo wise from a fountain pen. Even iron galls will wash off with a shower. Iron gall, bulletproof, water res, eternal, whatever is lasting with paper, but not skin.

 

Have you looked into henna?



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Posted 12 August 2015 - 06:58

I **really** don't think your going to get what you want tattoo wise from a fountain pen. Even iron galls will wash off with a shower. Iron gall, bulletproof, water res, eternal, whatever is lasting with paper, but not skin.

 

Have you looked into henna?

I have heard a little about henna; but I am not sure what it is. I don't want it to last forever but for a while;yes.



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Posted 12 August 2015 - 07:04

My knowledge is limited, but henna is a temporary skin stain. Certainly more along the lines of what you're looking for than fountain pen ink.

 

edit: Not an exhaustive source, but a decent faq:

http://www.hennaarts.com/henna-faq.htm


Edited by NinthSphere, 12 August 2015 - 07:08.


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Posted 12 August 2015 - 07:12

NinthSphere 

You are amazing! If allowed, mind sending me a link to get the right henna equipment?? I am still wanting to use my fountain pen to make designs so I can use this henna stuff. This is amazing; this just added something even better! Just so amazing! I am so ecstatic!!!! <3 <3 <3



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Posted 12 August 2015 - 07:17

Outside of my expertise, I'm afraid. Like I said, my knowledge is limited. I don't have any actual experience with the stuff.



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Posted 12 August 2015 - 17:33

There are temporary tatoos that are like transfer medium.

 

Go to www.gouletpens.com and look for fountain pens 101.  That is a series of videos that will show you how to use and take care of your new fountain pen.


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Posted 12 August 2015 - 17:49

I would use your pen to draw your design ideas on paper, rather than on your skin. Use the drawings to finalize what you want the stain to look like, then I would Google 'henna' and research from there. I would think it would be difficult to draw the design depending on where you wanted it to go, and I'm sure that you could find a henna specialist somewhere who could put the design on you. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of tattoo places might have henna art available.


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Posted 13 August 2015 - 02:39

Wikipedia suggests that henna dyes are typically applied to skin as a paste.  No fountain pen will survive being used for that sort of thing.  Use fountain pens for making marks on paper, and hire a professional to make the marks on your skin.



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Posted 28 August 2015 - 04:18

Go get recommendations on the best tattoo artist in your area and have him put the tattoo on you. That done, grab your pen, start to enjoy writing, drawing, and experimenting with different inks in your fountain pen.

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Posted 01 February 2016 - 14:38

Making a tattoos in our body will be the famous art which should be arise last few years.. every one will be last makes the tattos in our body.Henna designs will be mostly arises in these days. by making tattoos with henna will be helpful for almost the maker. because these will be remove easily after some time. we will be uploaded different henna tattoos designs last few years.  http://clothing4styl...-designs-henna/







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