Is My Lamy Safari Fake?

August 27, 2015

All of my spacers were only printed on the outside... Here are some different versions:

C. P.

September 2, 2015

Off Topic Question: What is the purpose of the cardboard separator? I realize you take it off before using the pen, but why put it on there in the first place?

On Topic Comment: Having ordered an Al-Star LE (from Goulet) today, I'm confident it won't be fake. I'm equally confident I won't have it in hand as quickly as I'd like.

September 2, 2015

Off Topic Question: What is the purpose of the cardboard separator? I realize you take it off before using the pen, but why put it on there in the first place?

On Topic Comment: Having ordered an Al-Star LE (from Goulet) today, I'm confident it won't be fake. I'm equally confident I won't have it in hand as quickly as I'd like.

Off Topic Answer: the separator prevents the nib assembly from being unintentionally screwed into the body of the pen, which in turn prevents the cartridge inside the pen from being perforated. No separator = the potential for a horrible inky mess in transit!

September 3, 2015

Off Topic Answer: the separator prevents the nib assembly from being unintentionally screwed into the body of the pen, which in turn prevents the cartridge inside the pen from being perforated. No separator = the potential for a horrible inky mess in transit!

I appreciate the explanation. I didn't realize the pens came with the cartridge inside the barrel. Makes sense now.

September 3, 2015

_{My latest Safari Al-Star from The Writing Desk did NOT have print on both sides of the cardboard spacer.}
I doubt it is a fake.

Some of my Safari's came from the Writing Desk, with zero doubts that they're Lamy Manufacture Safari's. I would readily buy from them again = very good service.

The single example of the poor quality spacer was that it was loose, not tightly compacted. This was not the only obvious clue.

This issue requires level headed reporting so that those new to Safari make an accurate choice for a successful outcomes. A small saving is not saving at all on fraudulent items with intent to deceive and disappointing poor performance, and time involved in rectifying, if possible. Spend the extra 5 dollars and have 20 years of reliable performance = easy.

September 10, 2015

I just received a charcoal Safari from an Amazon seller today.

It didn't seem to feel the same as my other ones, the quality didn't seem to be the same.

then after reading about the instructions mine said founfain pen.

September 10, 2015

Those instructions look they are for a Lamy 2000!

September 10, 2015

Yes they do I didn't even notice.

They came with my supposed Safari.

September 11, 2015

Spacer only 1 side printing only.

I got post many photos before to identify real or fake lamy safari.

But not sure any upgrade of the quality of the lamy safari fake.

September 13, 2015

I just received a charcoal Safari from an Amazon seller today.
It didn't seem to feel the same as my other ones, the quality didn't seem to be the same.
then after reading about the instructions mine said founfain pen.

So does this mean there also are Lamy 2000 fakes? This founfain pen clearly shows the manual is fake, but why do they even produce fake lamy 2000 manuals if they don't sell fake lamy 2000s? Have anyone ever come across a fake one?

C.P.

September 17, 2015

I went to eBay yesterday in search of vintage Safaris and ran across a TON of Safaris being shipped from China, i.e. seller was in China and based on background in the pictures, appeared to be mostly the same seller. My immediate assumption given the Chinese reputation and the sheer number of hits, was that these were fakes. I'm guessing that someone there figured out how to make fakes and is using eBay to sell them. Let the Buyer beware.

I realize I'm stereotyping, but.......

September 24, 2015

http://s22.postimg.org/h1w7skeod/QQs_t_20130527222919.jpg

Everyone scope on your lamy !!!

September 25, 2015

I went to eBay yesterday in search of vintage Safaris and ran across a TON of Safaris being shipped from China, i.e. seller was in China and based on background in the pictures, appeared to be mostly the same seller. My immediate assumption given the Chinese reputation and the sheer number of hits, was that these were fakes. I'm guessing that someone there figured out how to make fakes and is using eBay to sell them. Let the Buyer beware.

I realize I'm stereotyping, but.......

Not really, all fake pens I've spotted on eBay come from China, Taiwan and India. Yet, all Lamy fakes I've seen are Safari pens. Never seen or heard of a Studio, 2000 or any other model fake.

September 26, 2015

http://s22.postimg.org/h1w7skeod/QQs_t_20130527222919.jpg

Everyone scope on your lamy !!!

Is the top one genuine?

September 30, 2015

Is the top one genuine?

Top one is genuine.

The engraving is sharper.

Touch the material of the pen.

Scope all the engraving part like "LAMY"

Real one will be Sharp one. (cos it is expensive to produce sharp image)

November 21, 2015

Since I have no basis for comparison, I hope that you will be able to help me. I received my Lami Safari from Amazon today. I have never owned a Lami pen before, so I don't know what to think. This is my first fountain pen in about 20 or 30 years (other than a Pilot Varsity , so I am a basic newbie. My main concern with the pen is that all of the edges are VERY rough and sharp! It feels like I could cut my finger just holding the pen! Is this typical? There is no way that this roughness shows up in photos (believe me I tried!). The only documentation that came with the pen was the warranty. Is this is an indication of Lamy quality (or lack of quality in their finishing)? If it is a counterfeit, I will definitely send it back to Amazon. What do YOU think?

November 21, 2015

Since I have no basis for comparison, I hope that you will be able to help me. I received my Lami Safari from Amazon today. I have never owned a Lami pen before, so I don't know what to think. This is my first fountain pen in about 20 or 30 years (other than a Pilot Varsity , so I am a basic newbie. My main concern with the pen is that all of the edges are VERY rough and sharp! It feels like I could cut my finger just holding the pen! Is this typical? There is no way that this roughness shows up in photos (believe me I tried!). The only documentation that came with the pen was the warranty. Is this is an indication of Lamy quality (or lack of quality in their finishing)? If it is a counterfeit, I will definitely send it back to Amazon. What do YOU think?

There is no part of your pen that looks counterfeit. Lamy Safaris come in different packaging. The one I bought for my spouse had none.

Edits:

Sorry, I should have been more specific. The nib, packaging, and cap all look genuine. Look at the breather hole on the nib, as it is correctly aligned. Additionally, the mold lines on the cap look crisp.

Edited November 21, 2015 by dfo

November 21, 2015

Since I have no basis for comparison, I hope that you will be able to help me. I received my Lami Safari from Amazon today. I have never owned a Lami pen before, so I don't know what to think. This is my first fountain pen in about 20 or 30 years (other than a Pilot Varsity , so I am a basic newbie. My main concern with the pen is that all of the edges are VERY rough and sharp! It feels like I could cut my finger just holding the pen! Is this typical? There is no way that this roughness shows up in photos (believe me I tried!). The only documentation that came with the pen was the warranty. Is this is an indication of Lamy quality (or lack of quality in their finishing)? If it is a counterfeit, I will definitely send it back to Amazon. What do YOU think?

It's a little hard to tell from your photos, but I'm suspicious: the finish on your Lamy Safari *does* look pretty rough. Genuine or not, the edges shouldn't be sharp.

Something else to check: does the Warranty describe your Safari as a fountain pen or a "founfain pen"? Though I haven't seen this myself, that's apparently another giveaway when it comes to fakes - and it seems that Amazon have inadvertently found themselves facilitating the sale of these...