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#21 THRobinson

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Posted 19 August 2015 - 16:04

The more I look at that photoshopped image... the more I think, a copper plated nib would balance the whole thing out perfectly.

 

Copper bad for nibs? Corrodes too fast? Just realized, I never see it used.

 

One day, when I have some money eating a hole in my pocket, I'll have to buy an extra nib and do some home electroplating (with the help of YouTube of course).


Edited by THRobinson, 19 August 2015 - 16:18.

LAMY Al Star (Limited Ed. Copper Orange) w/ Noodler's Apache Sunset

LAMY Safari (Black) w/ Noodler's Black (Bulletproof)

LAMY Safari (Red) w/ Noodler's Eel Rattler Red

Noodler's Ahab (Clear Demonstrator) Used for Testing Inks

Parker Urban (London Cab Black) w/ Diamine Red Dragon

Parker Reflex (Green Pearl) w/ J.Herbin's Poussiere de Lune


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#22 Xozzen

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Posted 09 October 2015 - 13:38

Did you already recieve the clip and made the modifications?

I'm looking to create a golden lamy safari clip with galvanization or some other technique, but I am unsure how to take the clip off and afraid of ruining my pen. My pen will be a Lamy Safari Brown (from the line collaboration with the bear) and it will hopefully arrive in the next few days at my doorstep.

 

 

Oh, btw, I'm new here, first post!  :vbg:



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Posted 09 October 2015 - 14:11

No, not yet... emailed this week for an update to see if it came in yet but, no response.

 

Clip should be easy to remove though... few YouTube walk-throughs... just Google "disassemble lamy safari" and half a dozen show up. Few are better than others, I think one by a Scottish guy was pretty good.

 

I debated doing electroplating or something like that with mine. The orange/copper pen with a silver clip was an odd choice. Once I realized hey, some Lamy have black clips, I simply emailed Lamy and got the name of a distributor in Ontario that can get parts. Ordered 2 black clips because still debating another Al-star. I want a purple one, but, seems to be 3-4 different shades out there and not sure which is which when ordering. Website photos aren't always accurate.


LAMY Al Star (Limited Ed. Copper Orange) w/ Noodler's Apache Sunset

LAMY Safari (Black) w/ Noodler's Black (Bulletproof)

LAMY Safari (Red) w/ Noodler's Eel Rattler Red

Noodler's Ahab (Clear Demonstrator) Used for Testing Inks

Parker Urban (London Cab Black) w/ Diamine Red Dragon

Parker Reflex (Green Pearl) w/ J.Herbin's Poussiere de Lune


#24 Xozzen

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Posted 09 October 2015 - 14:24

Thanks, I will look for tutorials for that then. 

 

Not sure when I will make that clip though, right now I am trying to save up for my first "big" fountain pen, as in really expensive.

 

Though when the time has come, I might add in a gold nib for the safari aswell.



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Posted 09 October 2015 - 15:12

Any photo updates on the upgraded Copper? Eagerly awaiting to see the results!

#26 THRobinson

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Posted 09 October 2015 - 15:31

No... the distributor placed the order first week of Sept and said would be a few weeks to get. Though, usually 1-2 day response time, I messaged them Monday for an update and not a peep... maybe they forgot to order?

 

It does have the black B nib, which I like, it's smooth and wetter than the M nibs, using Apache Sunset... but, bit too fat for the size in which I write so, may need to grab me another black M nib for it for daily writing. Though, I tend to use the Lamy pens for designing/sketching ideas more than writing.

 

When that clip decides to show up, I will definitely post some photos. :D

 

Lamy Al Star "Black Edition" Copper-Orange... I think is what I'm calling it. That, or Bubba. :)


LAMY Al Star (Limited Ed. Copper Orange) w/ Noodler's Apache Sunset

LAMY Safari (Black) w/ Noodler's Black (Bulletproof)

LAMY Safari (Red) w/ Noodler's Eel Rattler Red

Noodler's Ahab (Clear Demonstrator) Used for Testing Inks

Parker Urban (London Cab Black) w/ Diamine Red Dragon

Parker Reflex (Green Pearl) w/ J.Herbin's Poussiere de Lune


#27 THRobinson

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Posted 25 October 2015 - 21:30

Lamy Al Star - Copper-Orange "Black Edition"

 

Has a broad nib, as well as a medium nib that I bought when I grabbed the clips. Broad nib looks great when sketching with Noodler's Apache Sunset, such great shading, but, my writing is too small to use a broad nib with, so had to grab a medium as well. Never tried the fine yet, it's next on the list.

 

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Edited by THRobinson, 25 October 2015 - 21:33.

LAMY Al Star (Limited Ed. Copper Orange) w/ Noodler's Apache Sunset

LAMY Safari (Black) w/ Noodler's Black (Bulletproof)

LAMY Safari (Red) w/ Noodler's Eel Rattler Red

Noodler's Ahab (Clear Demonstrator) Used for Testing Inks

Parker Urban (London Cab Black) w/ Diamine Red Dragon

Parker Reflex (Green Pearl) w/ J.Herbin's Poussiere de Lune


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Posted 26 October 2015 - 03:28

Lamy Al Star - Copper-Orange "Black Edition"

 

Has a broad nib, as well as a medium nib that I bought when I grabbed the clips. Broad nib looks great when sketching with Noodler's Apache Sunset, such great shading, but, my writing is too small to use a broad nib with, so had to grab a medium as well. Never tried the fine yet, it's next on the list.

 

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Drooling!!

 

Was it hard to swap the clips?



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Posted 26 October 2015 - 04:00

Thanks... I bought an extra clip, just in case I bought the same pen in Black-Purple, or Graphite. Or, another Copper-Orange... debating the Al-Star or a TWSBI for my friend for Xmas.

 

Clip swap wasn't too hard, there are a few good YouTube videos, though info was a bit vague for one aspect. They say to stick a dowel in the cap and apply pressure while turning the black cap/screw on the end. It's not the pressure pushing on it that helps it unscrew, rather, you need something with some degree of grip because when you push inside the cap you have to keep the metal piece inside from turning while you unscrew the top. I was turning and turning and pushing and turning... top just kept spinning. Grabbed a different/rougher dowel and this time it was able to keep the inside from turning. May be better to use the rubber end of an unsharpened pencil. I say unsharpened, because you'll probably want to push the other end into your desk.

 

Once you have that black piece off, it's easy. I did however, wrap the pen cap in about 2 layers of masking take, just to be safe and prevent scratching.

 

Though, that's for my pen. I saw a post somewhere (will try to find it) that shows 4 generations of caps on the Lamy pens. Mine's 4th gen, not sure about the other 3.

 

Disassemble Video (about 4min in is the dowel part)

 

Cap/Pen Generations

http://www.fountainp...67-lamy-safari/


LAMY Al Star (Limited Ed. Copper Orange) w/ Noodler's Apache Sunset

LAMY Safari (Black) w/ Noodler's Black (Bulletproof)

LAMY Safari (Red) w/ Noodler's Eel Rattler Red

Noodler's Ahab (Clear Demonstrator) Used for Testing Inks

Parker Urban (London Cab Black) w/ Diamine Red Dragon

Parker Reflex (Green Pearl) w/ J.Herbin's Poussiere de Lune


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Posted 26 October 2015 - 12:02

For the older generation ones ( I believe 1st-2nd or 3rd generation) it's actually very simple. I will you show: the cap is build differently, it is a metal screw -screwing mechanism. I actually prefer this kind of mechanism as it is more durable and easier to use to get the cap into pieces:

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This is the normal cap with which we start.

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When you screw off the metal top screw it looks like this.

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You can now simply take of the remaining elements, because all was held together by the screw.

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That's how the "raw" cap looks like.

You can now simply put in a new clip and screw it all together again, it takes less than 1-2 minutes. Please notice that there also sits a rubber ring in the element between the clip and the screw, which is meant (I guess) to prevent air from coming in so that the nib can't dry out.

#31 bbycrts

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Posted 26 October 2015 - 16:32

Heard back already...

 

$6CAD for the clips... $18CAD for the nibs.

 

Idea was to do this with the Copper-Orange... quick photoshop side-by-side.

 

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That's a definite improvement!



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Posted 26 October 2015 - 18:13

I'm definitely happy with the results... and luckily, where I bought it, was able to swap the nib for black at no extra cost, so, just $6 for a clip. Which, by total fluke, I was able to pick up and save the cost of shipping. I had to go to Toronto, 3 hours away, to take my sister to a Dr's appointment/specialist... who was about 8min down the road from where the Lamy parts were. 

 

I think the contrast looks way better though, gives off a real Halloween vibe now.


LAMY Al Star (Limited Ed. Copper Orange) w/ Noodler's Apache Sunset

LAMY Safari (Black) w/ Noodler's Black (Bulletproof)

LAMY Safari (Red) w/ Noodler's Eel Rattler Red

Noodler's Ahab (Clear Demonstrator) Used for Testing Inks

Parker Urban (London Cab Black) w/ Diamine Red Dragon

Parker Reflex (Green Pearl) w/ J.Herbin's Poussiere de Lune


#33 jkingrph

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Posted 28 October 2015 - 13:51

Can you post the source, possibly e mail that is getting the clips.   Can clips be changed on ballpoint, if so, how?


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Posted 28 October 2015 - 14:16

I emailed LAMY direct, and they sent me contact info for the Ontario distributor. You, being in Texas, I'll assume LAMY will have a closer contact for you.

 

Pen wise, looking at the ballpoint and fountain pen on their site, the caps look the same so I assume they'll swap in the same way, but, honestly I have no idea. I have 3 LAMY pens, all fountain pens.

 

Only ballpoints I have are Papermate's that are $2 for a 10pk. :D


LAMY Al Star (Limited Ed. Copper Orange) w/ Noodler's Apache Sunset

LAMY Safari (Black) w/ Noodler's Black (Bulletproof)

LAMY Safari (Red) w/ Noodler's Eel Rattler Red

Noodler's Ahab (Clear Demonstrator) Used for Testing Inks

Parker Urban (London Cab Black) w/ Diamine Red Dragon

Parker Reflex (Green Pearl) w/ J.Herbin's Poussiere de Lune


#35 RMN

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Posted 26 November 2015 - 00:40

Late reaction:

 

18 CDN$ for a nib? That's steep. The nibs are just under 5 EUR here, while 18-CDN$ would be about 12 EUR so that is more than double price!

 

 

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#36 THRobinson

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Posted 26 November 2015 - 03:53

Maybe they're cheaper there because you're closer to where they're made? :D

 

Maybe you should buy them up over there and sell them on here. Probably still be cheaper for use... $18/nib here + shipping! It's why I only have the 1 extra nib. Else I'd live to grab an F and a 1.1 stub.


LAMY Al Star (Limited Ed. Copper Orange) w/ Noodler's Apache Sunset

LAMY Safari (Black) w/ Noodler's Black (Bulletproof)

LAMY Safari (Red) w/ Noodler's Eel Rattler Red

Noodler's Ahab (Clear Demonstrator) Used for Testing Inks

Parker Urban (London Cab Black) w/ Diamine Red Dragon

Parker Reflex (Green Pearl) w/ J.Herbin's Poussiere de Lune


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Posted 03 January 2016 - 03:46

Has anyone had any attempts or successes with this in the USA? I would be VERY intrigued by a Stormtrooper Safari, white with black nib + clip, or a purple-black AL-Star. I may even black out my Vista...

If no one has contacted Lamy USA O'd be willing to be the canary, but if there's a path with footprints on it it would be easier...

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Posted 03 January 2016 - 17:00

I contacted Lamey USA, Goulet pens, Fahrneys, in late Oct or early Nov,  and no go here in US.  If anyone else finds a source I would be interested.

 

Also how to change clip on a ballpoint.


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Posted 03 January 2016 - 21:33

Is the cap on the ballpoint not the same as the Fountain Pen?


LAMY Al Star (Limited Ed. Copper Orange) w/ Noodler's Apache Sunset

LAMY Safari (Black) w/ Noodler's Black (Bulletproof)

LAMY Safari (Red) w/ Noodler's Eel Rattler Red

Noodler's Ahab (Clear Demonstrator) Used for Testing Inks

Parker Urban (London Cab Black) w/ Diamine Red Dragon

Parker Reflex (Green Pearl) w/ J.Herbin's Poussiere de Lune


#40 Mike 59

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Posted 03 January 2016 - 22:13

I have taken a few Safari caps apart using a paint brush handle.







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