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Help With Id And Restoration

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#1 Alexp


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Posted 05 August 2015 - 03:45


I was recently given this Waterman Ideal pen that was owned by my wife's Grandfather. The pen is sterling silver and the bladder pump arm says "Ideal" and the nib says "Waterman Ideal Canada". I cannot find any other reference to the pen type however the pump arm does have some patent information on the sides.

I was hoping for some help on two points. First, finding out exactly what pen this is? Second, does anyone know of a restorer in or near Vancouver, BC? This pen definitely needs some love.

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#2 kernando



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Posted 05 August 2015 - 07:08

Look again at the nib for a number, then look on the back end of the pen barrel for another number. If you post a closer and better exposed picture, somebody might recognize the silver overlay pattern and remember the name for it.

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#3 Alexp


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Posted 05 August 2015 - 16:22

There was no number on back of the pen barrel (the pen is well worn). However on the underside of the nib there was topline "E3.S" bottom line Jan, 9. 

Here is another picture of the overlay that got some better lighting. 


Thanks for the help. 



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Posted 06 August 2015 - 12:14

it looks like a waterman 452 in oriental pattern.  4 in the 100's spot would indicate that it is a silver overlay, the 5 in the 10's spot would indicate that it was a lever filler, and the 2 is the nib size, i am least certain about this number, but looking on the nib would tell you the correct number here.  its really a beautiful pen and it looks like the hard rubber is in great shape.  the oriental pattern is one of the harder ones to find from what i understand.  


you can double check that it is an oriental pattern over here


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