Id Waterman's Ideal With Military Clip

[londonbooks]

I have this vintage used Waterman's with a 14 kt Ideal Firm nib and military clip, which I think is kind of rare? I'd appreciate any ID information you might have for me. Thanks

[Ernst Bitterman]

I'd call that a short clip rather than a military one; unlike Sheaffer, Waterman didn't have a service-specific version of their clip, they just applied a clip that met with the pocket-flap requirements to pretty much their entire line during the 1940s. I tend to associate the short version with pens having a V at the end of their model numbers, which during that era were more "ladies'" than "vest" models. I'm not completely certain of that specific trim-- it might be a Conquest from the early 1950s (it looks a lot like the very late Crusaders, but for that short clip, and the Conquest was the V version of that pen).

[londonbooks]

I'd call that a short clip rather than a military one; unlike Sheaffer, Waterman didn't have a service-specific version of their clip, they just applied a clip that met with the pocket-flap requirements to pretty much their entire line during the 1940s. I tend to associate the short version with pens having a V at the end of their model numbers, which during that era were more "ladies'" than "vest" models. I'm not completely certain of that specific trim-- it might be a Conquest from the early 1950s (it looks a lot like the very late Crusaders, but for that short clip, and the Conquest was the V version of that pen).

 

Thanks for that - it's good to know a little about this Waterman's

[Ernst Bitterman]

A little is all I can claim to know about 'em