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#1 Mob Mentality

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Posted 15 July 2015 - 21:24

Hi everybody, I recently bought a Sheaffer's Lifetime 1250 Cartridge Pen. After looking through the Sheaffer converters I already had I found that the slim sheaffer converter that fits the targa fits perfectly in the pen. I was wondering if anyone had any experience with the slim converter in the 1250 lifetime.  All the other converters I have don't fit at all. Thanks in advance.

 

 

 

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Posted 18 July 2015 - 14:51

I have one of these. As I recall the modern piston converter doesn't fit, but the old squeeze converter (full size) does. The Targa slim converter is basically the same as the old squeeze, just slimmer, so there's no reason why it wouldn't work fine.



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Posted 18 July 2015 - 15:12

I have one of these. As I recall the modern piston converter doesn't fit, but the old squeeze converter (full size) does. The Targa slim converter is basically the same as the old squeeze, just slimmer, so there's no reason why it wouldn't work fine.


Do you mean the size of the nipple on both the slim targa and the standard size targa (and on all other cartridge / converter pens) is the same? So the slim converter would fit the standard size pens but not the otherway round?
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Posted 18 July 2015 - 15:19

Do you mean the size of the nipple on both the slim targa and the standard size targa (and on all other cartridge / converter pens) is the same? So the slim converter would fit the standard size pens but not the otherway round?

 

Yep, exactly. I just stuck a slim converter on a standard sized Targa to double check, fits fine.



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Posted 18 July 2015 - 15:23

Yep, exactly. I just stuck a slim converter on a standard sized Targa to double check, fits fine.



That is fine. I , too , would check and come back to you.
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Posted 18 July 2015 - 15:45

Thanks for your replies. I have the old full size sheaffer squeeze converter but it doesn't seem to fit. What I mean is that is doesn't go all the when down the barrel. Could it be I'm being to gentle and need to apply more pressure? When you put in the old squeeze converter is it easy to screw the barrel on? For my pen it's harder than I think it should be to screw the barrel in with the converter.


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Posted 18 July 2015 - 16:01

Thanks for your replies. I have the old full size sheaffer squeeze converter but it doesn't seem to fit. What I mean is that is doesn't go all the when down the barrel. Could it be I'm being to gentle and need to apply more pressure? When you put in the old squeeze converter is it easy to screw the barrel on? For my pen it's harder than I think it should be to screw the barrel in with the converter.


No. Don't put extra pressure. The full size squeeze converter wouldn't fit because yours is a cartrige only pen. The resistance point in the barrel is meant to press the cartridge in place when the barrel is threaded into the section.Look for a button filler. That would perfectly fit though.

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Posted 18 July 2015 - 16:05

Thanks for your replies. I have the old full size sheaffer squeeze converter but it doesn't seem to fit. What I mean is that is doesn't go all the when down the barrel. Could it be I'm being to gentle and need to apply more pressure? When you put in the old squeeze converter is it easy to screw the barrel on? For my pen it's harder than I think it should be to screw the barrel in with the converter.

 

The full size is a tight fit. It can get stuck in the barrel which is annoying. Mine doesn't need extreme pressure though. I'd say if the slim is a better fit stick with the slim.



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Posted 18 July 2015 - 16:14

No. Don't put extra pressure. The full size squeeze converter wouldn't fit because yours is a cartrige only pen. The resistance point in the barrel is meant to press the cartridge in place when the barrel is threaded into the section.Look for a button filler. That would perfectly fit though.

 

I know that the button filler fits. But it's very hard to find and the one I did find cost more than the pen at $77. I think I'll continue using the silm converter and not the fullsize. The silm fits great and slides down the barrel with no effort.


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Posted 18 July 2015 - 16:35

I know that the button filler fits. But it's very hard to find and the one I did find cost more than the pen at $77. I think I'll continue using the silm converter and not the fullsize. The silm fits great and slides down the barrel with no effort.

There is another solution to your problem. Read this thread :

http://www.fountainp...perial-is-this/
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Posted 18 July 2015 - 16:52

There is another solution to your problem. Read this thread :

http://www.fountainp...perial-is-this/

Thanks. My pen however doesn't have a spring in the barrel. It is like the one described in this post from your link though mine is from 1963. I have the original box and paper work too:

 

 

I have a Sheaffer Lifetime Pen from 1965, part of a pen/pencil set given to me for high school graduation. It looks exactly like your pen except it has a shiny silver colored metal cap and the gold band is not as wide. The modern converter will not fit because the barrel tapers down too much. It does not have a "mechanism" in the barrel, but a geometry at the back end. If you drop a new cartridge in the barrel and screw the section down on the barrel, the cartridge is pierced and seated automatically onto the nipple. It was made to simplify inserting a new cartridge.

 

Remove the cartridge, drop it in the barrel, screw the section back in place. Remove the barrel the cartridge will be seated properly on to the section. It does not leave any room for any converter I have, however Sheaffer may have made one back in the day the does fit. I don't know.

 

I have a 1997 Sheaffer Prelude that can use the modern converter. It does not seat the cartridge like my vintage Sheaffer does.

 

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Posted 18 July 2015 - 17:00

Mine too doesnt have the spring. It is just like the one described in the post you quoted.
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Posted 18 July 2015 - 17:03

I thought a picture of the pen might be helpful.

 

 

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Posted 18 July 2015 - 17:11

Here we go:

A squeeze converter cut to size :

 
 
I saw your post in the link about. How difficult is it to cut it to size? Is it worth the trouble if the slim converter fits and works well?

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Posted 18 July 2015 - 17:16

I saw your post in the link about. How difficult is it to cut it to size? Is it worth the trouble if the slim converter fits and works well?


It depends. If you have the expertise and are willing to take the pain then it isnt difficult. I now have acquired the button converter too.
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Posted 18 July 2015 - 17:22

I don't think I have the tools required for the job. For now I think I'll stick to the slim converter until I can find a button converter that doesn't cost more than the Fountain pen and pencil set pictured above. 


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Posted 18 July 2015 - 17:37

I don't think I have the tools required for the job. For now I think I'll stick to the slim converter until I can find a button converter that doesn't cost more than the Fountain pen and pencil set pictured above.

Ok. Enjoy your pen. You have a very nice lifetime cartridge only pen set. I had a button converter from long ago that I had forgotton. But now I got one more for free from a an antiq shop from where i bought more than 35 pens at a time. Here you read :

http://www.fountainp...ue-store-finds/
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Posted 18 July 2015 - 17:54

mitto incredible deal! I recently got a good deal in an antique shop too but not nearly as good as the deal you got. I found an Osmiroid 75 piston filling fountain pen from 1966 in like new condition with 6 gold plated osmiroid nibs including a a flexible fine and numerous italic nibs in various sizes. Total cost was $23. On ebay 1 nib is $19.99. I always keep my eyes open for pens. 


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Posted 18 July 2015 - 18:03

mitto incredible deal! I recently got a good deal in an antique shop too but not nearly as good as the deal you got. I found an Osmiroid 75 piston filling fountain pen from 1966 in like new condition with 6 gold plated osmiroid nibs including a a flexible fine and numerous italic nibs in various sizes. Total cost was $23. On ebay 1 nib is $19.99. I always keep my eyes open for pens.


Congrates on the excellent deal. Well, I too have been keeping my eyes open for the last thirtyfive or so years.

Best.
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Posted 18 July 2015 - 18:07

mitto Thanks for everything. Very helpful.


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