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Best Inks For Signing Documents

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#1 sitsi

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Posted 13 July 2015 - 14:21

Hello.

 

I'm Esteban, from Costa Rica. This is my first post. This is a great forum, thanks in advance for your responses, and apologies for my english.

 

I've been looking for this info in previous threads, but I didn't find any, I'm sorry if this has been asked before.

 

The main use for my fountain pens is for signing documents. I'm a doctor: I see a patient, I print a report and sign it. I work at different places, some with laser printers and some with inkjet printers. And here's my question:

 

Which are your favorite inks for signing documents?

 

They must be on the black or blue side. They must look professional. They shouldn't have much feathering. They should last.

And the tricky part: not boring, at least not much.

 

Thanks a lot.

 

As suggested:

 

Akkerman IJzer-Galnoten bl/zw (blue-black iron gall) (#10) 

De Atramentis Archive Black

De Atramentis Document Blue (heat and steam resistant)

Diamine Registrars' Ink

Ecclesiastical Stationery Supplies Registrars Ink

Montblanc Midnight Blue

Montblanc Permanent Black (DIN ISO 14145-2)

Montblanc Permanent Blue (DIN ISO 14145-2)

Noodler's 54th Massachusetts (B,E,F,W)

Noodler's Black (B,E,F,W)

Noodler's Blue Steel (not listed)

Noodler's Liberty Elisium (F,W)

Noodler's Luxury Blue (B,E,F,W, Fluorescent)

Noodler's Van Gogh Starry Night (not listed)

Noodler's X-Feather (B,E,F,W)

Pelikan 4001 Blue-Black

Rohrer & Klingner Salix

Sailor Jentle Blue-Black

Sailor Kiwaguro Nano Carbon (black)

Sailor Sei boku Nano Carbon (blue-black)

 

*From Noodler's website: B/Bullletproof, E/Eternal, F/Forgery-resistant, W/Water-resistant.


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#2 Lord Epic

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Posted 13 July 2015 - 15:29

Ideally, if you're signing a document, you want your signature to stay (ie won't be washed out by water, forgers can't remove it etc.)

 

In such cases, consider the cellulose-reactive inks from Noodler's like Noodler's (Bulletproof) Black. X-feather is good if you have to sign on poor paper.

 

I find Noodler's 54th Massachusetts not boring. Else, consider R&K Salix (iron gall blue black). Diamine Registar's ink is good also.

 

My favourite ink for signing is the partially bulletproof Noodler's Liberty Elysium.

 

 

 

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Posted 13 July 2015 - 15:53

I had a local lawyer tell me recently that black should not be used because a copy of the document wouldn't show any difference. This was for contracts, etc.



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Posted 13 July 2015 - 16:04

My favourite is/was Montblanc's Blue-Black (old style with iron gall, now discontinued) Otherwise Montblanc's current "Permanent Blue or Permanent Black". Also good for this purpose, more colours and  much less expensive, any of the De Atramentis Document inks, including their "Archive" ink (http://www.de-atrame.../document-ink-/). I'd stick to blue-black, blue, black or brown, 

 

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Posted 13 July 2015 - 16:05

Ideally, if you're signing a document, you want your signature to stay (ie won't be washed out by water, forgers can't remove it etc.)

 

In such cases, consider the cellulose-reactive inks from Noodler's like Noodler's (Bulletproof) Black. X-feather is good if you have to sign on poor paper.

 

I find Noodler's 54th Massachusetts not boring. Else, consider R&K Salix (iron gall blue black). Diamine Registar's ink is good also.

 

My favourite ink for signing is the partially bulletproof Noodler's Liberty Elysium.

 

 

 

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I agree with Epic - Noodler's inks will offer the most color options with the waterproof/bulletproof features you are looking for.

I am a big fan of 54th Massachusetts for a blue.

 

For most of my writing that requires permanence, I use Chesterfield's Archival Vault, an iron gall ink (this is a repackaged version of Diamine Registrars Blue-Black). It deals very well with cheap paper, especially with a fine nib. Depending on the paper used, it will either retain more of the original blue coloring, or it find its way toward the black range. This is a great quality of iron gall ink in my opinion.



#6 amberleadavis

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Posted 13 July 2015 - 17:32

I use Luxury Blue from Noodler's for signing contracts.  It is BLUE, but it's fade proof, waterproof and UV so you can tell if someone tries to alter it.

 

The other ink I really like is Dromgoole's Blue Steel.  It's  a blue-black.  It's water resistant, has great shading and it's also fade resistant.

 

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Mass 54 is probably easier to get in your country.  Blue Steel is an exclusive and must be ordered from Dromgooles.

 

Then of course, you can buy Starry Night, it's a dark dark blue that is an FPN exclusive.  Here is MHPhotos amazing review.

 

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#7 sitsi

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Posted 13 July 2015 - 17:42

Thanks a lot for all your responses.



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Posted 13 July 2015 - 17:53

If you tell me the brands of ink available in your country, I will make a few suggestions. I am also a physician. I like to use not-quite-black inks in my pens for use at the hospital. Lately, I have been using Sailor blue-black. It is dark, but I can see the blue in it. It also works well on many different papers. I have many other favorites, but i don't wan to suggest anything too esoteric. We are very fortunate in the USA to have access to so many foreign products. 


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Posted 13 July 2015 - 17:57

I would recommend Pelikan Blue Black or Pelikan Black.

 

Sailor Blue or Blue Black is also an excellent suggestion, if available.



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Posted 13 July 2015 - 18:16

I like Montblanc's new Permanent Blue.  It has an ISO rating like a ballpoint, though I don't know if that makes it better or worse than iron gall or other bulletproof inks.



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Posted 13 July 2015 - 18:17

I'd sign with Pelikan Blue/black (conventional dye based, but seems unobtainable through Chartpak), Platinum blue/black (IG),  Akkerman # 10 (IG),  Diamine Registrar's (IG) or old formula MB Midnight Blue (IG).


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#12 sitsi

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Posted 13 July 2015 - 18:45

We don't have a large selection here, but it's easy to order from USA with a company that give me an US address and brings everything to my house, so I'm not restricted by that.

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Posted 13 July 2015 - 19:34

KWZI has some interesting color iron gall inks.


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Posted 13 July 2015 - 21:20

We don't have a large selection here, but it's easy to order from USA with a company that give me an US address and brings everything to my house, so I'm not restricted by that.

 

Hola amigo Tico!!, You either need to look at inks with iron-gall in them or pigment based permanent inks like Sailor nano black or sei-boku, The new montblanc permanent inks are ISO 14145-2 certified, there's also ESSRI which afaik is IG and charges the same shipping to the US or Costa Rica



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Posted 13 July 2015 - 22:52

Hola Amigo Chapín. I did my specialty in Xela!!! I know your country very well, I have good friends there.



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Posted 14 July 2015 - 03:59

I would say Pelikan 4001 Blue-Black because it is very hard to make that ink feather. On top of that, the color is beautiful on a wet nib. As for Montblanc Midnight Blue (iron-gall version), the color is nice but it will feather more than Pelikan 4001 Blue-Black.

P.S: Montblack Midnight Blue does not feather unless you use a super wet nib.

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Posted 14 July 2015 - 05:58

Thanks a lot. I did a little list on the first post so anyone looking for this could find it easy.


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Posted 14 July 2015 - 06:23

Is it strange that there are no Pilot Iroshizuku's on the list? And no J. Herbin's? Aren't they good for signing?



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Posted 14 July 2015 - 07:17

They are not waterproof. :P



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Posted 28 October 2015 - 02:35

Which is more "bulletproof" Noodler's bulletproof inks or an ink that's ISO 14145-2 certified? In other words, which ink has passed the tougher test? Thanks for any info!







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