Jump to content

What 51 Cap Is This?


mitto

Recommended Posts

Have lately acquired a Parker 51 aerometric with a cap that has an usually wide band and a tapering feather (long arrow clip) pattern with '51' and "1/10 14 ct R Gold" (as opposed to the usual '12 ct...') engraved on the back. I was told it was a 1st year English 51.

 

I have googled and read somewhere the same about this 51 cap but don't remember where. The cap came with a navy grey pen on whose barrel the "made in England" could clearly be read but the date code has somehow become unreadable. I mounted the cap on this forest green pen because I like this 51 of mine the most for two reasons. Firstly , because it was my first 51 that I bought back in 1991 (it is a first year "6 times" filler pen) . And , secondly because I like the forest green color.

 

I was wondering if I can get more information on this particular 51 cap. Here it is :

Khan M. Ilyas

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Replies 7
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

  • mitto

    5

  • mariom

    2

  • christof

    1

Top Posters In This Topic

Actually Kahn, it's not quite the same, The cap you reference has a horizontal line running around the bottom of the vertical ones, which your cap lacks.

 

One thing the caps article at parker51.com highlights though, is that there was a nearly endless variety of P51 caps produced over the years. Good luck on finding the provenance of yours.

=====================================
Mario Mirabile
Melbourne, Australia

www.miralightimaging.com

=====================================
Link to comment
Share on other sites

clip looks unusual.

 

Now that you mention that, the slight taper on the feathers isn't present on any of my 51 clips.

=====================================
Mario Mirabile
Melbourne, Australia

www.miralightimaging.com

=====================================
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Actually Kahn, it's not quite the same, The cap you reference has a horizontal line running around the bottom of the vertical ones, which your cap lacks.

 

One thing the caps article at parker51.com highlights though, is that there was a nearly endless variety of P51 caps produced over the years. Good luck on finding the provenance of yours.

Yes. But every other detal is the same as on this cap. I mean the engraving pattern and the slight taper on the feathers. Yet , you are right that this seems to be a diferent type of 51 cap. May be someone else with more knowledge on the subject chime in.

Khan M. Ilyas

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 2 weeks later...

clip looks unusual.

just ask ernesto.

c.

I have asked Ernesto and he has replied with some very interesting information about the cap/clip style.

 

Here is what he said in reply to my email:

 

 

 

"Khan,

 

You have a early English-made Parker 51 cap. The clip is the first giveaway and it is uniquely English and used in the first and second year of aero production. The pattern is typical of the early English caps too and it is very different from the Canadian and U.S. patterns. The pattern actually carried over from the English 51 vac production, except for that the clip was changed from the blue diamond at some point (and yes, they did use the blue diamond in the English production, contrary to what the 51 book says).

 

hope that helps,

 

Ernesto Soler

parker51.com"

Edited by mitto

Khan M. Ilyas

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Actually Kahn, it's not quite the same, The cap you reference has a horizontal line running around the bottom of the vertical ones, which your cap lacks.

 

One thing the caps article at parker51.com highlights though, is that there was a nearly endless variety of P51 caps produced over the years. Good luck on finding the provenance of yours.

Mariom , see Ernesto's opinion above on the cap/clip style/pattern. Edited by mitto

Khan M. Ilyas

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


  • Most Contributions

    1. amberleadavis
      amberleadavis
      43844
    2. PAKMAN
      PAKMAN
      33583
    3. Ghost Plane
      Ghost Plane
      28220
    4. inkstainedruth
      inkstainedruth
      26772
    5. jar
      jar
      26105
  • Upcoming Events

  • Blog Comments

    • Shanghai Knife Dude
      I have the Sailor Naginata and some fancy blade nibs coming after 2022 by a number of new workshop from China.  With all my respect, IMHO, they are all (bleep) in doing chinese characters.  Go use a bush, or at least a bush pen. 
    • A Smug Dill
      It is the reason why I'm so keen on the idea of a personal library — of pens, nibs, inks, paper products, etc. — and spent so much money, as well as time and effort, to “build” it for myself (because I can't simply remember everything, especially as I'm getting older fast) and my wife, so that we can “know”; and, instead of just disposing of what displeased us, or even just not good enough to be “given the time of day” against competition from >500 other pens and >500 other inks for our at
    • adamselene
      Agreed.  And I think it’s good to be aware of this early on and think about at the point of buying rather than rationalizing a purchase..
    • A Smug Dill
      Alas, one cannot know “good” without some idea of “bad” against which to contrast; and, as one of my former bosses (back when I was in my twenties) used to say, “on the scale of good to bad…”, it's a spectrum, not a dichotomy. Whereas subjectively acceptable (or tolerable) and unacceptable may well be a dichotomy to someone, and finding whether the threshold or cusp between them lies takes experiencing many degrees of less-than-ideal, especially if the decision is somehow influenced by factors o
    • adamselene
      I got my first real fountain pen on my 60th birthday and many hundreds of pens later I’ve often thought of what I should’ve known in the beginning. I have many pens, the majority of which have some objectionable feature. If they are too delicate, or can’t be posted, or they are too precious to face losing , still they are users, but only in very limited environments..  I have a big disliking for pens that have the cap jump into the air and fly off. I object to Pens that dry out, or leave blobs o
  • Chatbox

    You don't have permission to chat.
    Load More
  • Files






×
×
  • Create New...