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#41 SNAK

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Posted 06 November 2015 - 05:21

So I compared the L'Amant ink against a few of my purple inks (Noodler's Black Swan in Australian Roses Version 1, Version 2, De Atramentis Purple Violet, and Diamine Pansy). Aussie Roses version 1 was  leaning too red/brown and Aussie Roses version 2 had the right kind of purple but had muddy tone which didn't suit. De Atramentis Purple Violet was the right kind of purple too, but because Diamine Pansy was similar and was made by the same brand as the other component of the mixture I was going to use (Hope Pink), I went with Diamine Pansy as the base ink to mix the Hope Pink into, to try and get colour of the mixed ink as close  as possible to L'Amant. 

 

So I mixed 1 part Diamine Hope Pink to 4 parts Diamine Pansy and the colour is similar to L'Amant, but now that I look at the photos in detail I think I could have added a little more Hope Pink in the mix to shift the colour pinker. Perhaps I will test it again next time as I am still curious about paper chromatography test of the mix.

 

Diamine inks are relatively easy to get a hold of and now that the Pansy ink is available as an individual bottle rather than as the whole Flower Set, the components of this mixture are much easier to come by compared to the L'Amant ink itself. The colour can be made to be pretty close to L'Amant, but the ink's behaviour and flow characteristics are of course different (Sailor vs. Diamine) and therefore shading quality is different too. 

 

Anyway, here are the photos. I think I need to add a bit more Hope Pink to the fake L'Amant so I will keep working on it. In all the writing samples, only the same pen with same nib unit was used, and between the ink swaps the pen was flushed thoroughly and nib unit was ultrasonically cleaned. 

 

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L-R: Sailor Bungbox L'Amant, Diamine Pansy, Diamine Hope Pink

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Upper half is written with Fake L'Amant, bottom half is genuine L'Amant.

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Pen: TWSBI 580 Rose Gold with vintage Waterman #2 Canada 14K nib and ebonite feed from FPR

Ink: Sailor Bungbox L'Amant compared to a mixture of Diamine Pansy and Diamine Hope Pink

Paper: Tomoe River (White)



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Posted 06 November 2015 - 05:39

add a few more hope pink as the L amant is indeed a bit pinker as for shading yeah totally different story because perhaps it's the lubrication thats affecting it

I might try the same and make cigar... I know I need a red component and a green component I'm just not too sure if Oku-yama is going to cut it (I used Tokiwa-Matsu nudged with Rouge Hematite no adverse affects so far I just don't know if I can make a big batch)

I wish I have the same access of red stuff as Ishimura Osamu...

Edited by Algester, 06 November 2015 - 05:48.


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Posted 07 November 2015 - 06:10

So I compared the L'Amant ink against a few of my purple inks (Noodler's Black Swan in Australian Roses Version 1, Version 2, De Atramentis Purple Violet, and Diamine Pansy). Aussie Roses version 1 was  leaning too red/brown and Aussie Roses version 2 had the right kind of purple but had muddy tone which didn't suit. De Atramentis Purple Violet was the right kind of purple too, but because Diamine Pansy was similar and was made by the same brand as the other component of the mixture I was going to use (Hope Pink), I went with Diamine Pansy as the base ink to mix the Hope Pink into, to try and get colour of the mixed ink as close  as possible to L'Amant. 
 
So I mixed 1 part Diamine Hope Pink to 4 parts Diamine Pansy and the colour is similar to L'Amant, but now that I look at the photos in detail I think I could have added a little more Hope Pink in the mix to shift the colour pinker. Perhaps I will test it again next time as I am still curious about paper chromatography test of the mix.
 
Diamine inks are relatively easy to get a hold of and now that the Pansy ink is available as an individual bottle rather than as the whole Flower Set, the components of this mixture are much easier to come by compared to the L'Amant ink itself. The colour can be made to be pretty close to L'Amant, but the ink's behaviour and flow characteristics are of course different (Sailor vs. Diamine) and therefore shading quality is different too. 
 
Anyway, here are the photos. I think I need to add a bit more Hope Pink to the fake L'Amant so I will keep working on it. In all the writing samples, only the same pen with same nib unit was used, and between the ink swaps the pen was flushed thoroughly and nib unit was ultrasonically cleaned. 
 
22630696790_cc9f6d597d_b.jpg
 
L-R: Sailor Bungbox L'Amant, Diamine Pansy, Diamine Hope Pink
22818727775_d5ced4c419_b.jpg
 
Upper half is written with Fake L'Amant, bottom half is genuine L'Amant.
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22818701815_5da994d192_b.jpg
 
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Wow... This looks good... Now I must try the combo
 
Pen: TWSBI 580 Rose Gold with vintage Waterman #2 Canada 14K nib and ebonite feed from FPR
Ink: Sailor Bungbox L'Amant compared to a mixture of Diamine Pansy and Diamine Hope Pink
Paper: Tomoe River (White)


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Posted 07 November 2015 - 07:49

Wow, the mix is gorgeous.



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Posted 09 November 2015 - 19:49

uhhhh, WOW! that ink is lovely. I don't know if I would ever use it, but I love how it photographs.

 

But more importantly, WOW! I LOVE your TWSBI set up with all those modified nibs. I WANT! 



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Posted 09 November 2015 - 20:40

Excellent review. On a related note, how can I get a TWSBI with one of those awesome flex nibs!! 



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Posted 16 November 2015 - 09:49

Thank you for your nice comments. 

 

Abner, I have been asked a similar question before so I previously did a description of how I set up my Franken TWSBI pens in this post with step by step photos. I hope you'll find it helpful somewhat. 



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Posted 05 April 2016 - 02:12

Thank you, Snak, for this. Sadly I can't get hold of L'Amant anywhere but the Diamine mix should do for now and is much more easily come by.

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Posted 06 April 2016 - 01:59

Good review; thanks. I have decided for my peace of mind to give up the obsessive quest for hard-to-obtain Sailor inks. L'Amant is the one exception; I still want to try to get it. 



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Posted 06 April 2016 - 02:18

Good review; thanks. I have decided for my peace of mind to give up the obsessive quest for hard-to-obtain Sailor inks. L'Amant is the one exception; I still want to try to get it. 

Same here.. God knows when will I get it

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Posted 06 April 2016 - 18:12

Do you mind if I ask who has Diamine Pansy, and if possible, any of the others as singles? I thought I was pretty good with Google, but it eludes me. 



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Posted 06 April 2016 - 18:18

Do you mind if I ask who has Diamine Pansy, and if possible, any of the others as singles? I thought I was pretty good with Google, but it eludes me. 

 

Diamine sells it directly



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Posted 06 April 2016 - 18:19

Do you mind if I ask who has Diamine Pansy, and if possible, any of the others as singles? I thought I was pretty good with Google, but it eludes me. 

 

 

Diamine is from UK, so UK vendors should have it.   If not, you can always order directly  from Diamine. 

 

 

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