Question Regarding An Old Diplomat Pen & Cartridges

[Dustpuppy]

Hello,

 

some 30 years ago I discovered a bunch of discarded strange ink cartridges which did not fit a modern pen. I was lucky at that time to find a local shop that still had a pen in which those cartridges fitted. That was my introduction to a Diplomat pen and I have been using it almost on a daily basis since.

 

As you can see in the images below it concerns 6/99 cartridges for a Diplomat +2. However searching on those keywords does not give me any relevant information. As far as I know this type of pen is dated end of the '60's / begin 70's? It looks the same model as the one that was offered in the following link: https://www.fountainpennetwork.com/forum/topic/193302-2-rare-diplomat-school-pen-sets-fp-bp/

So my question is if someone has more information regarding this (type of) pen from Diplomat.

As you can see in the images an 'F' is present on the bottomside of the pen. The Diplomat logo is present on both ends of the pen. I found this to be a very durable pen which writes nice. It sure would be nice to get hold of another Diplomat pen in which these cartridges fit.

 

Thanks in advance for your feedback Hopefully someone can shed some light on this pen and cartridge system. Any information is welcome.

 

Best regards,

R.

 

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[TomSch]

Hi, "R."!

 

Your dating of the pen's right: beginning of the 70ies. The imprinted "F" means "fein", German for "fine" nibs. The cartridge model name was "Pop 505 A", the piston filler called "Pop 605". They were made in different colours as lilac, red, orange, green, black and a clear demonstrator. These cartridges fit for example in a "CD 800", too. They are genuine Diplomat cartridges (wearing a cross at the bottom of it) and fit in NO other cartidge pen I know, and I know a lot of them! So don't throw away when used, just fill them up with ink using a syringe.

I experienced that there is another cartridge type fitting these Diplomats - if you don't have originals any more -: Cross!

They are softly "screwed in" for use. The disadvantage is that you can't spot a replacement cartridge in the body.

 

Best regards, Thomas

Edited December 19, 2015 by TomSch

[RMN]

Interesting system with these clips, almost like gunclips.

And the sleeve to ride a spare piggy-back.

 

As often, the more interesting and often better system of the small producers must yield to the often inferior bulk standard. These days Diplomat uses standard international size.

 

 

 

D.ick

[Dustpuppy]

Thanks for your feedback Thomas,

 

I only noticed your feedback a few days ago.

Curious that there is so little known on the internet regarding these Diplomat pens and cartridges. I searched for the cartridge name but apart from this topic no valid results are returned,

Thanks for naming the CD 800. Do you perhaps also know which type my pen concerns? Or for that matter other Diplomat pens which also take this type of cartridge?

I have indeed besides the black cartridges also green, red and blue ones. I will photograph them and post the picture in this topic.

I also now collect the empty ones like you suggested. So far no need for replacement as I still have the original cartridges but good to know that modern replacement cartridges are available.

 

Best regards,

Robert

[TomSch]

Hi, Robert.

 

It's all right.

You worte: "Do you perhaps also know which type my pen concerns?" I wrote this in my comment above: "The cartridge model name was >Pop 505 A<". The older Diplomat fountain pens like "Diplomat 100" or "101" took those cartidges, too. The more modern ones, built in the late seventies to nowadays, take the international cartridges short or long.

 

Best regards, Thomas

[Dustpuppy]

Long overdue but as promised hereby a picture of the different color cartridges:

 

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[Bo Bo Olson]

I have two Diplomats, one an old Maltese Cross piston pen, the other a sliver plated cartridge pen with a gold plated stirrup as clip. There was also one just like it with a tennis racket clip.

 

I had a very nice light metal one using normal cartridges with great balance, but I got rid of it because it was a nail. Today with lots more pens, I'd kept it.

 

I've no idea why Diplomat is so ignored....not expensive enough????

The quality seems quite good.