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Pimp-My-Ink-Comparison Pelikan Edelstein Aventurine Vs Pelikan 4001 Brilliant Green

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#1 Morbus Curiositas

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Posted 29 May 2015 - 11:59

Pimp-my-Ink-Comparison Pelikan Edelstein Aventurine vs Pelikan 4001 Brilliant green

 

 

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Pimp-my Ink... What is that???

 

There are certain companies that produce several lines of ink. They every now and then put a special line of inks on the market. For example

  • Faber Castell vs Graf von Faber Castell
  • Pelikan 4001 vs Pelikan Edelstein
  • Ink of the year etc... Like J Herbin's

What are the differences

  • Fancy packiging
  • (slightly) changed recipe
  • other colours
  • more saturation
  • and of course a HIGHER PRICE

Not every point will be aplicable on any ink but just to give you an Idea of the possibilities.

 

Is this a good developement. That depends on how one looks at it I guess. Packaging is usually beautiful. And there is a greater selection of inks to choose from which is always good :thumbup: 

 

Yes the ink may be slightly different but bear in mind.... The manufacturer is the same and usually it's suppliers are the same too.

 

For the rest I will have a look at it ink by ink. and brand by brand. In order to apply for this Pimp-my Ink comparison.... There must be a price difference between the inks of the same manufacturer. A theme ink named after a person i.e but offered atr the same price as the other inks of the manufacturer will be excluded Noodlers and De Atramentis i.e. have a lot of specialty named inks but the prive isthe same, only the ink(colour) is/may be different

 

Well that is a lot of text so let's go..... FINALLY :) 

 

 

Pimp-my-Ink-Comparison Pelikan Edelstein Aventurine vs Pelikan 4001 Brilliant green

 

 

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This  is a comparison of handwritten texts taken from the original extensive review of each ink seperately

 

Pelika 4001 Brilliant green     https://www.google.c...0TBm-YdRdOaNs_g

Pelikan Edelstein Aventurine http://www.fountainp...ein-aventurine/

 

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There are differencse in colour of course.   But the difference is not always that explicit, which can be seen when the ink blots  in the picture above are compared :yikes:

 

There of course are difference... This is also what the coulour picker comparion in Photshop shows.    Pleas notice the differnet  CMYK and RGB Stats, down here

 

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Well that is quite obvious... But let's do some more comparisons.

 

 

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Of course hhere are colour difference too here, but they are less expressive as before. Especially if you have a closer look at the written texts in this pictures. Each text was written with the corresponding ink. :yikes:

 

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Both colours are nice in my opinion :)

 

Ink Behaviour and characteristics

 

Here I will have a closer looks at the things I usually test in an ink

 

 

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  • Shading behaviour is the same. Not to epressive and dependant on nib and paper used
  • Drying time is exactly the same 5 seconds in a finer nib
  • Bleedthrough, Feathering,  and Showthrough are absent in both inks
  • Lubricaton and wetness are the identical (I especially checked for this review)

 

Waterproof.

 As can be seen in the right sampler sheet the ink survives a drop of water. But let's how it holds it's liquour in my usual Jacques Cousteau Diving experiment for inks

 

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Well this was the Aventurine but believe me that the 4001 behaved just the same. This was the result that almost instantaneously  happend after a few seconds....

 

Is this a problem???  For me not this is not meant to be a waterproof nor permanent ink. :)  It is just that there are inks which are not meant to be waterproof nor permanent which will remain legible after a bath

 

 

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In this example of De Atramentis Wilhelm 2 (taken from my reviewhttp://www.fountainp...-in-one-review/) the colour is gone but the lines are still legible.... More inks i.e some Sailor have this quality too. It is not because of the brand thoughThe De Atramentis Khaki is not waterproof at all  either.

 

Hey they survive a drop these Pelikans. Just be careful.... I survive  a drop :puddle:  too but not half an hour under water ;)

 

Availability

This is one of those inks that is even available on the moon, simply hijack a passing space craft.... But since you and I most probably will not get to the moon that often (at least I don't)...

 

I will give you some adresses here

 

La Couronne du Comte I guess  Dennis and Rik would even travel to the moon to get it for you (just pay them a million or 2   :))  Well it is safe to say that they do almost everything to satisfy their customers http://www.lacouronneducomte

 

Bankers have Rothshield; Ink lovers have The Goulet Pen Company. Rachel and Brian carry the almost* largest assortiment of ink on earth an it's near surroundings   :)  http://www.gouletpens.com

 

*almost Dear Amberlea Davis carries the largest assoritment in the universe but is not a seller   :D

 

To Conclude.

 

Prices (taken from the La Couronne Du Comte website in Euros)

 

Pelikan Aventurine bottle 50 ml €13,95 / $15,20 price pro ml. €0,28 / $0,30

Pelikan 4001 Brilliant Green bottle 30 ml €3,95 / $ 4,30 price pro ml. €0.13 / $ 0,14 

exchange rates taken from wiselkoersen.nl on may 29, 2015

 

Difference pro ML is € 0,15

 

Is this ink better, Is this ink worth the money or spending extra???

 

What a product is worth depends on what you the client are willing to pay.

Is a Montblanc 149 worth € 765 .

Is that MB pen that much better than a Pelikan M1000 for € 595?

 

It is all dependant on what you think it is worth... You can get an excellent Fountain Pen between 50-150 dollars... But sou can also buy a special one you love for over 5000 dollars...

 

That is the same with these inks.... Paying more does not obligatory mean you get better ink.

 

Is this Edelstein ink better than the 4001 ink... In my opinion NOT! 

 

The only difference is the colour and the packaging, the behaviour is almost identical.... So if you need an execellent ink  for a nice price go for the 4001 ink.

 

My Opinion

I love Pelikans, I love both inks and love that fancy bottle of the Edelstein.... Aventurine for me it is worth it....  :wub:. And will buy al Edelsteins in the future :puddle:

 

I hope this was informative... Will do more of these formats in the future... i.e. Herbin standard vs Herbin 1670

 

Regards

 

Peter


Edited by Morbus Curiositas, 29 May 2015 - 12:20.

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Posted 30 May 2015 - 20:04

Nice review and good comparisons also of things like 149 vs M1000. I myself find that the Edelsteins do have a better lubrication than the 4001s.

 

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Posted 31 May 2015 - 04:57

Peter, you are super sweet.

I admit...I love green inks, and yet, I own neither of these. The Pelikan inks have been a little dry for me, but the Pelikan BB sold in Europe is one of the finest performing inks I own.

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#4 Cataleya

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Posted 30 June 2015 - 13:23

Thanks for the review! I've recently wondered, how similar they are...
Greetings to your Edelschwein ;)





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