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I have a penchant for red, red/black, black/red, red & black marble, red swirl, red/black swirl (I'm sure you're getting the picture now!) coloured pens, and although I do like using red inks, I was wondering if there were any black inks that have a definite "red" to them.

I'm now at the stage where I like matching up certain inks to certain pens, and can only use so many reds in my daily writings, scribblings and note-takings. So, some nice black ink with a "punch" of red would certainly help me use even more pens on a daily basis. :thumbup:

 

 

Anyone?

 

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A while back a well know brand was (to me) so poorly produced for the public that i could see red streaks in my writing, without even trying to push the limits of the universe.

 

I usually drop a few inks of a compatible black in to the mix of a good red for that kind of shade.

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Cool.

I had thought about mixing a few drops of onyx black into diamine poppy red to see what happened.

Has anyone else already mixed their own red\black?

Or

Are there any really, really dark red inks available that look almost black?

 

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Noodler's has a Red-Black, and De Atramentis has a Black-Red. I like both of them, but I wouldn't say they look almost black.

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Doesn't Noodler's make red-black any more? I used to use that color a lot.

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Watch the mix.

I did a red/black using Sheaffer Skrip ink.

I started with red, then added black.

I got to the point that it looked similar to Noodler's red/black.

Then beyond that, the ink started to look BROWN ???

Next time I am going the other way, start with black and add red until I get a tint of red.

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Watch the mix.

I did a red/black using Sheaffer Skrip ink.

I started with red, then added black.

I got to the point that it looked similar to Noodler's red/black.

Then beyond that, the ink started to look BROWN ???

Next time I am going the other way, start with black and add red until I get a tint of red.

 

Adding a dark to a light color (black to red) is the proper way to go. Just don't overshoot the mark when you get something you like.

 

Starting with black will mean you'll have to add an enormous amount of red before you notice any change.

 

Part of the reason you're getting a brown may be because the red you're starting with has too much yellow in it.

 

Noodler's red/black like Diamine Damson likely has a magenta-ish red in the mix.

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I had thought of needing to use a different red to do this mix, but I'm not good at color mixing.

 

I keep remembering something I read about a paint called 'brunswick green.' A VERY dark green.

It was said, it was 55 gallons of black + 1 gallon of green.

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I had thought of needing to use a different red to do this mix, but I'm not good at color mixing.

 

I keep remembering something I read about a paint called 'brunswick green.' A VERY dark green.

 

It was said, it was 55 gallons of black + 1 gallon of green.

 

The red you want, I believe, is a red like Diamine's Deep Magenta.

 

I'm coming at this as a visual artist who has a background mixing paint. You can find more about the rule of adding dark to light here. See tip #18.

 

Although most of us associate red with something like fire engine red or vermilion/scarlet, for mixing purposes, the true red is magenta.

 

Pentrace has multiple ink recipes here. The one for Oxblood looks like it could give you what you're after using Skrip Red, Skrip Black, and Skrip Blue (there's a typo in the recipe).

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This is PR Black Cherry.

 

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Hmm, I tend to think of this as a sort of purple color not red at all.....

 

Anytime you add black to red, it will start going toward burgundy or plum. If there's yellow in the red, it will start going toward rust or brown. A red black will never have the vibrancy of a true purple but it can suggest purple.

 

A similarly counter-intuitive effect can be observed with yellow. Adding black to yellow will produce something that looks green even though no blue is involved.

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Anytime you add black to red, it will start going toward burgundy or plum. If there's yellow in the red, it will start going toward rust or brown. A red black will never have the vibrancy of a true purple but it can suggest purple.

 

A similarly counter-intuitive effect can be observed with yellow. Adding black to yellow will produce something that looks green even though no blue is involved.

Truth!

But yellow with a little black makes a very pretty muted green! :)

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Truth!

But yellow with a little black makes a very pretty muted green! :)

 

I agree. Those are my favorite kind of "greens."

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The red you want, I believe, is a red like Diamine's Deep Magenta.

 

I'm coming at this as a visual artist who has a background mixing paint. You can find more about the rule of adding dark to light here. See tip #18.

 

Although most of us associate red with something like fire engine red or vermilion/scarlet, for mixing purposes, the true red is magenta.

 

Pentrace has multiple ink recipes here. The one for Oxblood looks like it could give you what you're after using Skrip Red, Skrip Black, and Skrip Blue (there's a typo in the recipe).

 

Thanks for the tips.

I will get a bottle of Diamine Deep Magenta on my next order.

 

I may try the Oxblood, just for the heck of it, to see what it looks like.

 

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I've had a bit of a go at mixing my own. :yikes:

I used 1ml diamine Syrah, 1 ml poppy red, and a few drops (dunno how many as I was adding to "taste") and I ended up with something not unlike the Noodlers red/black, a kind of dark cherry looking colour, which in a fine nib looks almost black on the page, but when moved in the light has a definite red leaning to it.

I'm all pleased with my wee self.

 

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