Can You Identify This Pen?

[claudewick]

Hi,

 

I really liked the color comnination, but I don't know which model is this. Can you help me?

 

Thanks

 

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MjQ4WDE2MDA=/z/OZ0AAOSw-jhT-LA~/$_57.JPG

[jar]

Perhaps a 1500?

[claudewick]

Jar, thanks.

 

The correct name is Sheaffer 1500 or Sheaffer Imperial 1500?

 

And about the filling system? Only cartridges or there were touchdown models available?

[jar]

Jar, thanks.

 

The correct name is Sheaffer 1500 or Sheaffer Imperial 1500?

 

And about the filling system? Only cartridges or there were touchdown models available?

 

IIRC the model name was Imperial Lifetime. The 1500 is the colored body/brushed cap code description. They were all cartridge pens and I'm not sure whether or not a converter fits.

[claudewick]

Thanks again, Jar.

 

I really loved the combination of burgundy, steel and gold, but I don't like cartridge only pens. I'll try to find the same color but in other model with a touchdown or converter.

[Ernst Bitterman]

You can find essentially the same thing with a TD filler; before the Lifetime marking, it existed as the Imperial VI, and those came in both styles of filler.

 

...of course, "you can find" is loose talk. Look for, certainly, but find is less certain.

[claudewick]

 

...of course, "you can find" is loose talk. Look for, certainly, but find is less certain.

 

Indeed.

 

I found no results at google. It seems that these are quite elusive pens. But I'll keep my eyes open.

 

Thanks

[kirchh]

 

IIRC the model name was Imperial Lifetime. The 1500 is the colored body/brushed cap code description. They were all cartridge pens and I'm not sure whether or not a converter fits.

 

I've seen several examples of these Lifetime pens as Touchdown fillers.

 

--Daniel

[Pincel]

 

I've seen several examples of these Lifetime pens as Touchdown fillers.

 

--Daniel

 

All 4 models of these Lifetime pens were cartridge only, no TDs, nada. They came out in 1963, which was Sheaffer's 50th anniversary. The trademark LIFETIME was imprinted on the 14 ct gold point and on the clip. They were numbered to match their price points, the following pens completed the range: 1250 (Imperial IV Style), 1500 (Imperial VI Style), 2000 (Imperial IV Style with 14K Cap Band) and 3000 (Imperial Triumph Style).

[kirchh]

All 4 models of these Lifetime pens were cartridge only, no TDs, nada. They came out in 1963, which was Sheaffer's 50th anniversary. The trademark LIFETIME was imprinted on the 14 ct gold point and on the clip. They were numbered to match their price points, the following pens completed the range: 1250 (Imperial IV Style), 1500 (Imperial VI Style), 2000 (Imperial IV Style with 14K Cap Band) and 3000 (Imperial Triumph Style).

 

Yet, I've seen several examples of these Lifetime pens as Touchdown fillers.

 

--Daniel

[Pincel]

 

Yet, I've seen several examples of these Lifetime pens as Touchdown fillers.

 

--Daniel

 

I have yet to see one.

[kirchh]

 

I have yet to see one.

 

Which, of course, does not provide evidence that they were not made.

 

--Daniel

[Pincel]

 

Which, of course, does not provide evidence that they were not made.

 

--Daniel

 

It appears you're right. Richard Binder has a TD Imperial "LIFETIME." Look here.

[jar]

 

It appears you're right. Richard Binder has a TD Imperial "LIFETIME." Look here.

 

Note, from Richard's page that you referenced, "This latter pen, ostensibly an Imperial VI, is technically a Frankenpen because it has a Lifetime cap; Sheaffer did not offer the Lifetime Imperial as a Touchdown."

[Pincel]

 

Note, from Richard's page that you referenced, "This latter pen, ostensibly an Imperial VI, is technically a Frankenpen because it has a Lifetime cap; Sheaffer did not offer the Lifetime Imperial as a Touchdown."

 

I know. Might be the pen Daniel has seen.

[kirchh]

 

Note, from Richard's page that you referenced, "This latter pen, ostensibly an Imperial VI, is technically a Frankenpen because it has a Lifetime cap; Sheaffer did not offer the Lifetime Imperial as a Touchdown."

 

Richard makes that statement based on his impression that such a pen wasn't offered. His statement is not evidence -- but his pen is.

 

--Daniel

[Pincel]

 

Richard makes that statement based on his impression that such a pen wasn't offered. His statement is not evidence -- but his pen is.

 

--Daniel

 

Since Richard's pen is an Imperial IV with a LIFETIME cap, it does not make it a TD Imperial LIFETIME which lacks the LIFETIME impression on the nib. His pen might be your kind of evidence but it doesn't mean it's a proof that Sheaffer made the LIFETIME in TD version. Evidence is not necessarily proof.

[jar]

 

Since Richard's pen is an Imperial IV with a LIFETIME cap, it does not make it a TD Imperial LIFETIME which lacks the LIFETIME impression on the nib. His pen might be your kind of evidence but it doesn't mean it's a proof that Sheaffer made the LIFETIME in TD version. Evidence is not necessarily proof.

 

IIRC the Imperial Lifetime did not have any unusual or unique impression on the nib, only on the clip.

[kirchh]

 

Since Richard's pen is an Imperial IV with a LIFETIME cap, it does not make it a TD Imperial LIFETIME which lacks the LIFETIME impression on the nib. His pen might be your kind of evidence but it doesn't mean it's a proof that Sheaffer made the LIFETIME in TD version. Evidence is not necessarily proof.

Richard's pen has the LIFETIME imprint on the nib.

 

--Daniel

[kirchh]

 

IIRC the Imperial Lifetime did not have any unusual or unique impression on the nib, only on the clip.

Richard's pen has the LIFETIME imprint on the nib.

 

--Daniel