Has Parker Vector Became A Vintage?

[h_s_shrivastava]

Today, I went to Parker website and saw the following:

 

USA: No mention of Vector in collections.

Europe: Mention in collections but no model displayed.

Japan: No mention in collections.

China: Mention but just a few models displayed.

 

 

Has Vector been phased out, and now is in line of being vintage model ?

 

And also, is Parker going to launch some new model ?

 

Edit: modified tags.

Edited May 1, 2015 by h_s_shrivastava

[lmarine0510]

"Vintage" is a subjective term, and everybody has a slightly different definition. I don't consider something to be vintage unless it is at least 50 years old. Even then, there are some pens that old that I would consider to be modern classics rather than vintage (i.e. Aerometric Parker 51.) I, personally, would not classify the Vector as a vintage pen just because it appears to be out of production.

[ac12]

Just because a pen is out of production does not make it "vintage."

 

Most definitions of vintage have an age factor, not a production factor.

 

One definition of vintage is "before I was born."

That makes the pens I used in college vintage for the guys in college today, who were not born when I was in college.

 

Another one is over X years old, and X is a different number for different people; 25, 50, 75 years.

 

Another is a point in time, such as before WW2.

 

There is the idea of older vintage and modern vintage where I think the break may be in the 1950s.

 

One complication on this are pens that have a LONG production period. They may have started over 40 years ago, but production may not have ended until 10 years ago. So is the older part of the production vintage and the newer not? Hard call.

Edited May 2, 2015 by ac12

[inkeverywhere]

To me an out of production pen, or anything for that matter, does not equate to being vintage.

 

The connotation the use of the word vintage seems to bring to many sellers minds is a higher price can be asked. I often scour antique stores and markets in the search for that elusive holy grail FP and the cheap pens I see being sold as vintage with ridiculous prices never ceases to amaze me.

 

Vintage probably has a definition in the dictionary but in my mind everyone would have their own meaning of the word vintage!

 

 

Greg

[inkstainedruth]

There was a thread a couple of years ago where people tried to define and quantify the differences between "antique", "vintage" and "semi-vintage". I don't remember who came up with the suggestion that the cut-off date for a "vintage" pen (i.e., vs. non-vintage) was 1960, with the introduction of the Parker 45, which I believe was the first commercially available cartridge filler.

So, by that definition, my P 45s are *not* vintage -- even though I've been reliably told that the first one I got is from the mid-1960s. My 1950s era Pelikan 400 *is* vintage.

The Parker 51 from the early 1960s? That's a tossup, as far as I'm concerned. It's a MK II -- which means that it still has the Aerometric filler system (whereas the MK III models, released in the early 1960s, are c/c pens like the 45s).

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

[the_gasman]

... the suggestion that the cut-off date for a "vintage" pen (i.e., vs. non-vintage) was 1960 ...

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

Both my kids and my younger colleagues regard me as vintage but I still think of myself as state-of-the-art. 😉

I was manufactured in 1957 so, by your working definition, I AM vintage. I'll join the club.

David

[h_s_shrivastava]

Both my kids and my younger colleagues regard me as vintage but I still think of myself as state-of-the-art.

I was manufactured in 1957 so, by your working definition, I AM vintage. I'll join the club.

David

 

Ha ha ha ha

 

Well, calling out of production Vector a vintage was not in above defined technicalities, per se, but it was more in line of general practice, when people refer older departed ones of family as ancestor.

[Pickwick]

The definition of vintage: old, recognized, and enduring interest, importance, or quality: classic.

 

This word is now totally misrepresented, especially on eBay!

Edited May 2, 2015 by Pickwick

[mitto]

The mid to late 1980s' Vector Standard , Vector Mode , Vector Sport , Vector Camo , Vector American , Vector White , the earlier RB-1 and Vector Caligraphy have almost disappeared and as such , I think , terming the Vectors as vintage by way of extention wouldn't be inapproriate regardless of the known definitions of the term.

[Mike 59]

The Vector range is shown on the Parker website, but no images of the pens. Same applies to the Jotter fountain pen, no mention or image.

In the UK, the food supermarkets might be one of the major sellers of the popular Jotter and Vector ballpoints, rollers and fountain pens, at least as long as I can remember.

[Alexcat]

The definition of vintage: old, recognized, and enduring interest, importance, or quality: classic.This word is now totally misrepresented, especially on eBay!

Absolutely agree, Pickwick. "Vintage" on fleabay is so often used to hike up the price for so many things. Caveat emptor, I suppose....but it feels to me like one of those grey areas which are too flexible(no pen pun intended but am rather proud of that accidental one) .....there are so many rules which quite rightly have to be adhered to, and this is one which seems to be used as a loophole a lot of the time...

 

Alex

[inkstainedruth]

Both my kids and my younger colleagues regard me as vintage but I still think of myself as state-of-the-art.

I was manufactured in 1957 so, by your working definition, I AM vintage. I'll join the club.

David

Yikes. That means I am too (and I'm younger than you...).

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth

[FarmBoy]

The Syndicate stopped drinking long enough to see this thread.

 

No. By unanimous vote. No.