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Left/right Oblique For Slanted Hand Writing?

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#1 greeeeb

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Posted 24 April 2015 - 03:09

Hi folks,

 

I used to write with a straight slant 'semi'-cursive. I used stubs, and left obliques. It gave me nice variation and compensated for my terrible hand writing.

 

Lately, I practiced palmer cursive, where it is slanted to the right. I used noodelr's untipped nibs--I do not write using tipped nibs. I find it easier to write with right slant; where my primary gain now is speed! I wanted to get back to my stub/oblique nibs. But I do not find them suitable for my new writing slant, where I rotate the nib to the right when I write with slant.

 

Should I get right oblique? left obliques are available at reasonable prices, but not right obliques. I do not want to take the chance and send a nib to a nibmister to find they do not fit my need.

 

Any thoughts?

 

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#2 Florenze

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Posted 24 April 2015 - 03:59

One way you can try writing with a right oblique is by making one yourself, out of a flat carpenter's pencil, or a chisel-tipped calligraphy marker. 

 

That way you can decide if it suits your writing style.  Of course not exactly the same as a fountain pen, but should be close enough for you to see how it works for you.



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Posted 24 April 2015 - 05:18

or if you have a lamy pen in your storage getting a nib and grinding it yourself should be an easy task personally though I use palmer script and I still use ordinary nibs else speedball nibs at least thats a cheaper one then grind your own

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Posted 24 April 2015 - 10:00

There is another crude but effective indication of whether a right oblique will suit you...  not all nibs will write inverted but try turning the left oblique upside down and see how you get on. :)  


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Posted 24 April 2015 - 23:30

Thanks, all.

 

after I read your advice, I remembered there is  an art material store close by that sells bamboo dip pens. I went and bought one with fine nib. I will go ahead and cut it as right oblique. It has nibs on both sides, so I got two chances only :) the pen is 4 usd. I can get more at low price if fail !

 

Thanks, again.



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Posted 29 April 2015 - 02:06

I have a couple of right obliques, but then I am left handed.  I use Palmer and have a slant to the right.  The left obliques are supposedly for right handed.  I frankly prefer a normal nib, fine or extra fine.  The rotating the pen thing is distracting.


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Posted 29 April 2015 - 23:26

Try Arabic or qulam nibs in your search. I think Dollar pens from Pakistan might be an inexpensive option, tho' I haven't tried them myself.

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Posted 30 April 2015 - 01:54

Thanks, all.

 

The bamboo pen has fine tip. However, it lays a bold line. I found then that there are right oblique dip nibs--Brause Bandzug and Leonardt Tape 70. I am buying some for testing.

 

I think Arabic pens are left obliques?

 

 

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Posted 30 April 2015 - 03:32

Oblique nibs are for cross addressers.


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Posted 30 April 2015 - 21:37

Bought a $28 Oblique Italic for my PFM I to try it out. I didn't like it. Always had to find the correct orientation (nib turned to the left facing me) and this bothers me, not my normal. So, I put back in my normal stub. :)


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Posted 01 May 2015 - 00:58

@Jar,

 

what is cross addressers? sorry, I am not expert yet:)

 

@BeRa,

 

you dot like to rotate the pen, while it is what I usually do :( It is difficult ot get rid of that habit!

 

 

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Posted 01 May 2015 - 01:14

@Jar,

 

what is cross addressers? sorry, I am not expert yet:)

 

@BeRa,

 

you dot like to rotate the pen, while it is what I usually do :( It is difficult ot get rid of that habit!

 

 

Thanks

 

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#13 sidthecat

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Posted 03 May 2015 - 02:29

Since you've studied the Palmer Method your hand position is probably more consistent than mine, but my preference is a straight-across nib. If you do like to change position, you may not want to box yourself in.

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Posted 03 May 2015 - 05:29

 

Since you've studied the Palmer Method your hand position is probably more consistent than mine, but my preference is a straight-across nib. If you do like to change position, you may not want to box yourself in.

Sorry, I am not native English speaker. Would you kindly explain!

 

@jar,

you may try another one :)

 

 

Thanks.



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Posted 03 May 2015 - 16:54

More simply, I've never found oblique-cut nibs much fun to use.

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Posted 03 May 2015 - 17:01

More simply, I've never found oblique-cut nibs much fun to use.

 

Hi sidthcat,

 

actually I already use oblique and I like them.   I can not get rid of the habit of rotating the nib while writing, and that is why I incline to obliques :( That require me to pay more, because I am not able to settle with standard nibs.

 

I am getting left and right obliques dip nibs in the next two days. I will update on the result!

 

Thanks.



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Posted 03 May 2015 - 21:32

Please do! It's a whole process of experiment.

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Posted 05 May 2015 - 02:59

Folks,

 

I got the nibs today by mail. I used three different dip nibs:

1- Brause C (Bandzuq) 3/4 -- right oblique.

2- Esterbrook Jackson stub -- straight

3- left handed mitchel 4 -- left oblique.

 

both the right and the left oblique cut angle is ~15-20 degree.

I used Noodler's Blue Eel and Habanero Inks on Rhodia No 18 paper.

 

The test results are as follow:

 

- the right oblique is the most comfortable while writing with right slant--I turn the nib a bit. However, it produces thick line pretty much all the time, except horizontally. I did not like it--I mean the right cut not the nib itself!

 

- the straight oblique produces the best line variation when I write with right slant. Straight slant is also good.

 

- the left oblique produces the best straight slant lines, and it comes second to the straight oblique with right slant.

 

 

In conclusion, I will use straight stubs for right slant cursive writing.

 

 

Thanks for all the replies and wish luck with my cursive:) 



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Posted 12 May 2015 - 00:28

Brilliant! 

My own preference is straight-across nibs. I bought an old Waterman Manifold nib that's left-oblique and I'll have to have it reground. They're hard to find, so hopefully worth the trouble.



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Posted 17 June 2015 - 01:15

I had to stop using my Pelikan OM because I was starting to have a serious issue with other nibs (especially my beloved stubs & CI).

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