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#1 Intellidepth

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Posted 16 April 2015 - 10:34

Water resistance tests on Reflex Blue copy paper (ie not white). 1 minute under running tap water. Selection of currently inked pens and personally preferred ink blends written with dip nib. Mostly Noodlers CMYK blends, a few Iroshizuku, one Private Reserve (Ebony Purple), and couple of J Herbins.

Interesting outcome for one commercial ink and for a couple of blends.

Noodler's Yellow: check out the paper bleaching after 1 minute rinse (third link below). Unexpected. Wouldn't have shown up if I had used white paper. While damp, I held the paper to the light to check it out, and the bleached areas appeared semi-translucent. The other Noodler's colours didn't have this effect and showed the regular type of behaviour I expected to see (Shah's Rose, Navajo Turquoise, and Bulletproof Black).

My Noodler's 'random blend' (first link below) with black, navajo turquoise, shah's rose, xanthan, and titanium white luster was also a surprise. This was the dregs of a few xanthan x luster experiments, and had a much higher proportion of Bulletproof Black in it than any of my other CMYK blends shown in these water tests. There was a *lot* of luster in this ink as can be seen on the unrinsed side - the base ink is actually a very dark purple when wet, and it dries up to that very pale purple due to luster coverage. After rinsing, the lustre still adhered quite solidly in some areas; even in the faded areas an equivalent amount of 'faded' luster still adhered. Will post a close up shot later in the xanthan thread. I'm curious about this behaviour.

Summer Lustre: Another ink blend with xanthan x titanium white luster, however did not behave in the same way as the 'random blend' with bulletproof - so there appears to be an interaction of some sort that occurred between bulletproof, xanthan, and luster, or maybe just bulletproof and luster in the 'random' blend. (FYI The plain ink version of Summer Lustre is shown just above and is called 'Sunset'.)

If a blend interests you let me know and I'll post up the specifics. However as these tests are all on blue paper, they'll look different on white paper. Someday I'll get around to posting examples and ratios on white (ink cards are in the making).

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Posted 16 April 2015 - 19:04

Looking for an ink or ink blend that has a fair amount of water resistance for everyday use and for my travel journal. Preferably a dark blue or blue-black in shade. Fairly well behaved as far as being non-clogging and fast starting with minimum fuss. Any suggestions? 


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Posted 16 April 2015 - 23:43

Looking for an ink or ink blend that has a fair amount of water resistance for everyday use and for my travel journal. Preferably a dark blue or blue-black in shade. Fairly well behaved as far as being non-clogging and fast starting with minimum fuss. Any suggestions? 

 

 

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Posted 16 April 2015 - 23:44

Intellidepth, the little tree icon will let you linke those images. Even if they are big, they are so worth seeing. Thank you for doing this work.

 

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Posted 16 April 2015 - 23:49

Intellidepth, I'm guessing that the Shah Rose and the Yellow are better inks than we might suspect.


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Great colour ink, what is it please?
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Posted 18 April 2015 - 09:05

Intellidepth, the little tree icon will let you linke those images. Even if they are big, they are so worth seeing. Thank you for doing this work.


Thanks. Can I see the little tree icon on an ipad? It's where I upload photos from.
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Posted 18 April 2015 - 09:08

Intellidepth, I'm guessing that the Shah Rose and the Yellow are better inks than we might suspect.


Yes, they have better staying power than Navajo Turquoise.
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Posted 18 April 2015 - 09:30

Looking for an ink or ink blend that has a fair amount of water resistance for everyday use and for my travel journal. Preferably a dark blue or blue-black in shade. Fairly well behaved as far as being non-clogging and fast starting with minimum fuss. Any suggestions?

Sorry, none, as I have no experience in this area yet. I'll be trialling Noodler's Bulletproof Black in a Pilot Custom Heritage 912 with Posting Nib soon as prep for uni exams and will be looking for similar performance characteristics as you.

I was originally going to create a blue-black blend with Navajo Turquoise and Bulletproof Black and possibly a touch of Shah's Rose (a deeper version of The Nominator) as my exam ink, but after seeing the intensity of the bleed-off under water of the Turquoise, I'm probably going to steer clear of it for exam use for now and just try Bulletproof Black.

I'm going to post 'recipes' aka ratios for some of the Noodler's blends above that contain a tiny bit of black. That way you can compare washout results.

C = Noodler's Navajo Turquoise : M = Shah's Rose : Y = Yellow : K = Bulletproof Black.

Violetta Grappa: C 1mL : M 3.5 mL : Y 0 : K 2 drops
Rosette: C 0 : M 2mL : Y 0 : K 3 drops
Masque's Black Swan in Icelandic Minty Bathwater replica: C 2.5mL : M 0 : Y 2 drops : K 2 drops
Jellyfish Aqua: C 2.5mL : M 0 : Y 0 : K 1 drop
The Nominator: C 2mL : M 1mL : Y 0 : K 1 drop

As you can see, it only takes a very small amount of Bulletproof Black to deepen a standard colour.

I'm looking forward to purchasing some De Atramentis CMYK document inks sometime in the next month or two which I believe are waterproof/water resistant-oriented.
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Posted 18 April 2015 - 22:46

Great colour ink, what is it please?

 

That's Dromgoole's Blue Steel.  It's a Noodler's ink only available at Dromgooles.  The next time you are ordering stuff from the US, consider calling them. They are wonderful.


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Posted 18 April 2015 - 23:00

That's Dromgoole's Blue Steel.  It's a Noodler's ink only available at Dromgooles.  The next time you are ordering stuff from the US, consider calling them. They are wonderful.


Thanks. Really like it.
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