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Problems With Midori Paper

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#1 han-z

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Posted 29 March 2015 - 18:13

Hello community,

 

I have a problem here. I have been using a Midori Traveler's Notebook for some time now and got myself a Montblanc pen recently...perfect combination, I thought. However, I am experiencing some problems here: the paper does not accept the ink every now and then. The nib slides across the paper and it seems like the paper was coated so that nothing wet stays on it...weird thing to desribe but I hope you understand what I mean. The effect is not everywhere on the paper...there seem to be some spots on a page where this occurs.

 

Here are some facts about my "equipment":

 

  • Montblanc 145p
  • Midori refill #005 (Free Diary)
  • Ink: Montblanc Toffee Brown

Has anyone here ever heard of these problems? I though, Midori was a very ink-friendly paper...



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#2 Tootles

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Posted 29 March 2015 - 19:50

No, but then I have only tried Diamine, Private Reserve, Rohrer & Klingner, J. Herbin, Pilot Black (cart), and whatever is in the cartridge that comes with the Parson's Essential. No skipping, feathering or bleeding with any of them, and that includes using dip pens, flexible vintage FPs and stubs.

 

Have you tried a different pen and/or ink? After all, there are three factors involved in this.



#3 han-z

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Posted 29 March 2015 - 20:23

No, I have only used this configuration so far. However, I can change the ink to MB Permanent Blue tomorrow...I'll do that and let you know the outcome.

If anyone has any hints in the meantime...I would be glad to read them!

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Posted 29 March 2015 - 20:55

It's possible that the paper is absorbing oil from your hand, creating spots where the ink doesn't absorb as well. Try writing with a piece of blotting paper under the side of your hand as you write and see if that solves the problem..
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Posted 30 March 2015 - 01:47

Hello community,

 

I have a problem here. I have been using a Midori Traveler's Notebook for some time now and got myself a Montblanc pen recently...perfect combination, I thought. However, I am experiencing some problems here: the paper does not accept the ink every now and then. The nib slides across the paper and it seems like the paper was coated so that nothing wet stays on it...weird thing to desribe but I hope you understand what I mean. The effect is not everywhere on the paper...there seem to be some spots on a page where this occurs.

 

Here are some facts about my "equipment":

 

  • Montblanc 145p
  • Midori refill #005 (Free Diary)
  • Ink: Montblanc Toffee Brown

Has anyone here ever heard of these problems? I though, Midori was a very ink-friendly paper...

 

I did not experience this problem with MTN stock paper refill + MBTB ink, but I have faced a similar problem with two of my earlier local notebooks (basically any fp + any ink, skips at spots) where there were some oily smooth spots which never absorbed ink, unless you overwrote it several times. One thing was that I had got those notebooks long back.

 

My guess is that the stock MTN refill might be quite old, and if you could get an additional refill replacement from the seller, it will be great.

 

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Posted 30 March 2015 - 04:03

It's possible that the paper is absorbing oil from your hand, creating spots where the ink doesn't absorb as well. Try writing with a piece of blotting paper under the side of your hand as you write and see if that solves the problem..

This is what I was going to say, but Hallel beat me to it. I've had this happen with some paper and ink combos. The smoother the paper (e.g. Rhodia), the more it seems to happen for me. I don't have any experience with the Midori paper, though I've read it has a smooth finish.

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Edited to correct the autocorrect.

Edited by Ink Blotto, 30 March 2015 - 20:04.


#7 Zdenek

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Posted 30 March 2015 - 11:24

I am using MB pens filled with MB inks and MTN equipped with MD paper refills without any problem. 005 is also made from MD paper so there won't be a problem. Try other refill - 001, etc. to see what happen.

 

 

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#8 han-z

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Posted 30 March 2015 - 20:28

Hey all,

 

thanks so much for all of your replies! I was also thinking about the thing with the oil on my hands and so on...I do not know if that is the reason. 

 

But I have done as stated above and changed the ink. My pen is now filled with MB Permanent Blue and everything worked out fine. It worked perfectly. So maybe this has to do with the Toffee Brown ink...whatever. For now I will stay with the blue ink and look what happens.

 

And Sonik, I'll also do what you wrote. My next refill won't be from my local store here (where it probably laid for 100 years) but I'll order somewhere where's there's a lot of Midorsi so I'll get a newer one.

 

I'll keep you posted on this one...interesting phenomenon, though. Please let me know if anyone has or had similar problems.



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Posted 31 March 2015 - 05:12

Hey all,

 

thanks so much for all of your replies! I was also thinking about the thing with the oil on my hands and so on...I do not know if that is the reason. 

 

But I have done as stated above and changed the ink. My pen is now filled with MB Permanent Blue and everything worked out fine. It worked perfectly. So maybe this has to do with the Toffee Brown ink...whatever. For now I will stay with the blue ink and look what happens.

 

And Sonik, I'll also do what you wrote. My next refill won't be from my local store here (where it probably laid for 100 years) but I'll order somewhere where's there's a lot of Midorsi so I'll get a newer one.

 

I'll keep you posted on this one...interesting phenomenon, though. Please let me know if anyone has or had similar problems.

 

I guess that might work for you. Please let us know when you try it with a new refill.


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Posted 02 April 2015 - 18:19

This is what I was going to say, but Hallel beat me to it. I've had this happen with some paper and ink combos. The smoother the paper (e.g. Rhodia), the more it seems to happen for me. I don't have any experience with the Midori paper, though I've read it has a smooth finish.

IB

Edited to correct the autocorrect.

 

 

I wanted to echo the same comment as Blotto and Hallel. I've gotten into the habit of placing a piece of scrap paper under my palm whenever I write, and I'm kind of obsessive about it. I cringe at having my hand come into contact with my writing surface now.

 

Another alternatiave is to wash your hands with soap and dry them before you sit down to write. You know what the doctor says: "Your health comes from clean hands"

 

If you keep from the paper coming into contact with your bare hands I don't believe your MD paper will have any problems at all with any ink which you desire to use. You won't have to constrain yourself to one particular ink and not the other.

 

I've had this problem a lot with super slick clairefontaine paper, but since I've religiously started using the shield paper under my palm, the problem has disappeared.



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Posted 24 June 2015 - 01:07

Hey all,

 

thanks so much for all of your replies! I was also thinking about the thing with the oil on my hands and so on...I do not know if that is the reason. 

 

But I have done as stated above and changed the ink. My pen is now filled with MB Permanent Blue and everything worked out fine. It worked perfectly. So maybe this has to do with the Toffee Brown ink...whatever. For now I will stay with the blue ink and look what happens.

 

And Sonik, I'll also do what you wrote. My next refill won't be from my local store here (where it probably laid for 100 years) but I'll order somewhere where's there's a lot of Midorsi so I'll get a newer one.

 

I'll keep you posted on this one...interesting phenomenon, though. Please let me know if anyone has or had similar problems.

 

Hey Han,

 

Any update from your side?

 

Funny thing I noticed yesterday, my MTN second refill started skipping with MBTB ink though it's ok with any other ink.

 

And second, the MD notebooks do not skip with MBTB.   :wacko:


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Posted 24 June 2015 - 01:18

Note to self - stay away from MB toffee brown ink....

I had a similar problem a lamy cartridge recently but popped a piece of paper between my hand and the paper and the issue went away.


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Posted 26 June 2015 - 04:50

Note to self - stay away from MB toffee brown ink....

I had a similar problem a lamy cartridge recently but popped a piece of paper between my hand and the paper and the issue went away.

 

Reminds me I have to get some A5 plastic sheets :)


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Posted 18 October 2015 - 18:08

Hello all,

 

sorry for me not responding soon. I have stayed away from the whole Midori/Montblanc thing ever since I posted this here.

 

Until today.

 

I have reactivated my Montblanc (laid around too long with the Permanent Blue) and loaded it with Toffee Brown. Same thing in my Midori (which is the very same book from back then). Reloaded my Montblanc with MB Midnight Blue => same thing, maybe a little better but this could be my imagination.

 

Anyway, this very Midori refill is done tomorrow, so I will start a new one and let you know what happens :)







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