Jump to content

Help Identify These Two Watermans?


jrobert6

Recommended Posts

Hi everyone,

 

I have two Waterman specimens that I'm trying to identify. The first is a silver filigreed ebonite lever filler from the 1920s or 1930s, marked "Ideal" on the lever.

 

The second is a fountain pen and pencil set in a case marked "Plume Or" in black, silver, and rhodium, I think from the 1970s. Perhaps a Concorde?

 

Pictures attached.

 

Thanks!

 

 

post-113315-0-61669400-1426219365_thumb.jpg

post-113315-0-99219700-1426219367_thumb.jpg

post-113315-0-52974400-1426219446_thumb.jpg

post-113315-0-22386600-1426219625_thumb.jpg

post-113315-0-61635300-1426219627_thumb.jpg

Edited by jrobert6
Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • Replies 4
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

  • jrobert6

    2

  • Left FPN

    1

  • Xof72000

    1

  • amk

    1

Popular Days

Top Posters In This Topic

Posted Images

Your first Waterman is a 45X ("X" = depending on the number on the bottom end of the body and nib), with "trefoil vine" filigree pattern.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

There are LOTS of reasons to love FPN, and this is just one more: thanks so much for your quick and kind help with this!

 

The filigreed Waterman is a 454 with trefoil vine pattern, and the set is a Concorde. I'd like to try to date the 454 more precisely, and also get a sense of the value of these items, but I am very pleased to know as much as I do from you both already.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

That's a Concorde; I have one which is a very nice writer indeed. They don't seem to have as much of a following as some other models, like the C/F: I've seen them go for 20-80 euros depending on condition and model (on French ebay) - it's a 50 euro pen in good condition, I reckon. (Got mine at a flea market for rather less than that.)

Too many pens, too little time!

http://fountainpenlove.blogspot.fr/

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


  • Most Contributions

    1. amberleadavis
      amberleadavis
      43844
    2. PAKMAN
      PAKMAN
      33501
    3. Ghost Plane
      Ghost Plane
      28220
    4. inkstainedruth
      inkstainedruth
      26627
    5. jar
      jar
      26101
  • Upcoming Events

  • Blog Comments

    • Shanghai Knife Dude
      I have the Sailor Naginata and some fancy blade nibs coming after 2022 by a number of new workshop from China.  With all my respect, IMHO, they are all (bleep) in doing chinese characters.  Go use a bush, or at least a bush pen. 
    • A Smug Dill
      It is the reason why I'm so keen on the idea of a personal library — of pens, nibs, inks, paper products, etc. — and spent so much money, as well as time and effort, to “build” it for myself (because I can't simply remember everything, especially as I'm getting older fast) and my wife, so that we can “know”; and, instead of just disposing of what displeased us, or even just not good enough to be “given the time of day” against competition from >500 other pens and >500 other inks for our at
    • adamselene
      Agreed.  And I think it’s good to be aware of this early on and think about at the point of buying rather than rationalizing a purchase..
    • A Smug Dill
      Alas, one cannot know “good” without some idea of “bad” against which to contrast; and, as one of my former bosses (back when I was in my twenties) used to say, “on the scale of good to bad…”, it's a spectrum, not a dichotomy. Whereas subjectively acceptable (or tolerable) and unacceptable may well be a dichotomy to someone, and finding whether the threshold or cusp between them lies takes experiencing many degrees of less-than-ideal, especially if the decision is somehow influenced by factors o
    • adamselene
      I got my first real fountain pen on my 60th birthday and many hundreds of pens later I’ve often thought of what I should’ve known in the beginning. I have many pens, the majority of which have some objectionable feature. If they are too delicate, or can’t be posted, or they are too precious to face losing , still they are users, but only in very limited environments..  I have a big disliking for pens that have the cap jump into the air and fly off. I object to Pens that dry out, or leave blobs o
  • Chatbox

    You don't have permission to chat.
    Load More
  • Files






×
×
  • Create New...