Jump to content

The Fountain Pen Network uses (functional) cookies. Read the FPN Privacy Policy for more info.  To remove this message, please click here to accept the use of cookies


Registration on the Fountain Pen Network

Dearest Visitor of the little Fountain Pen Nut house on the digital prairie,

Due to the enormous influx of spammers, it is no longer possible to handle valditions in the traditional way. For registrations we therefore kindly and respectfully request you to send an email with your request to our especially created email address. This email address is register at fountainpennetwork dot com. Please include your desired user name, and after validation we will send you a return email containing the validation key, normally wiithin a week.

Thank you very much in advance!
The FPN Admin Team






Photo

How Many Pens Make You A Collector?

pens collections collecting

  • Please log in to reply
83 replies to this topic

#1 sidthecat

sidthecat

    Donor Pen

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,132 posts
  • Location:Los Angeles
  • Flag:

Posted 22 February 2015 - 18:35

An antiques dealer once told me: "If you have three of something, you're a collector." I happened to recollect this the other day when I realized I had too many pens to simply put in a drawer anymore. And If I buy that Moore ringtop on eBay I will become a Specialty Collector - a truly scary thought.

How do you define, and possibly constrain, that acquisitive urge? Number? Kind? Condition? What makes you pull the trigger?

Sponsored Content

#2 rochester21

rochester21

    Collectors Item

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,351 posts
  • Location:Bucharest, Romania
  • Flag:

Posted 22 February 2015 - 19:11

   I concur with the antiques dealer. I was thinking 2-3.  Some say you are a collector when your collection has a structure, a purpose, such as to collect every variant issued of a specific object, say Parker 51.  But my definition is less constrained. 

   So, if you buy fountain pens because you like having them and not because you need them, you can call yourself a collector, even though guys with 20.000 dollar worth of pens might not be willing to call you one of them.

 

It`s all relative.  :happy:


Edited by rochester21, 22 February 2015 - 19:19.


#3 sombrueil

sombrueil

    sad, but true

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 916 posts
  • Location:New England
  • Flag:

Posted 22 February 2015 - 21:06

Are we distinguishing between users and collectors, or between normal people and fountain pen nuts?

 

I'm trying to get down to one carry pen and three at home, and I'm getting close. I believe I qualify as a user, but I'm also crazy. 


Edited by sombrueil, 22 February 2015 - 21:08.


#4 FountainPages

FountainPages

    Runs With Sharp Pens!

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 504 posts
  • Location:Toledo,Ohio
  • Flag:

Posted 22 February 2015 - 21:12

Two. One fountain pen gets you hooked. The second purchase means you are on your way...


letterji9.png

I have never let my schooling interfere with my education.

Mark Twain

#5 mirosc

mirosc

    I love the smell of ink in the morning

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,622 posts
  • Flag:

Posted 22 February 2015 - 21:31

 "If you have three of something, you're a collector."

 

Last time I counted I had more than three socks. What does this make me?

Just like socks pens are objects that I actually use.

 

I'd rather call me an "amateur" (latin "amare" = to love), because "collecting" rather sounds like some serious business and I don't have serious intentions.


Greetings,
Michael

#6 wspohn

wspohn

    Donor Pen

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,091 posts
  • Flag:

Posted 22 February 2015 - 21:34

No, it takes 3.  Owning 2 just means a back up if you lose your primary pen.  Once you've got that, there is no reason to acquire any more unless you get into collecting, which starts with pen #3.


Bill Spohn
Vancouver BC
"Music is the wine that fills the cup of silence"

Robert Fripp
Posted Image

#7 amk

amk

    Antique

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,051 posts
  • Location:Norwich, UK
  • Flag:

Posted 22 February 2015 - 21:45

I think collecting is about attitude. It's about being interested in the things and in the history behind them. So you could have a collector's attitude to fountain pens and only have one pen, if you had spent a lot of time finding out about, say, your Vacumatic, how to date it, where it fitted in the Parker universe, and so on. But in the nature of things, if you do all that work, you'll probably end up owning more than one Vacumatic, indeed more than one Parker...

 

As for constraining the urge... I'm now increasingly saying to myself that ebay acquisitions will be limited to

  1. one-offs and real rarities. Custom pens, pens that come up once or twice a year.
  2. modern production models at less than half 'new' street price. And that is limited to Edison, Bexley, and Platinum.
  3. really interesting lots with a number of good vintage pens.
  4. five specific pens I need to fill the gaps in otherwise complete ranges.

That means I can't go out and splurge on a red Parker 45 just because I don't have one. And I also have a rule that I'm not allowed to buy anything new, from retailers, unless they have a sale on.

 

But there are no rules about what I can buy at flea markets, as long as I have money in my pocket :-)


Too many pens, too little time!

http://fountainpenlove.blogspot.fr/


#8 BrandonA

BrandonA

    Donor Pen

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,861 posts
  • Flag:

Posted 22 February 2015 - 21:49

One if your goal is to continue buying.
My Collection: Montblanc Writers Edition: Hemingway, Christie, Wilde, Voltaire, Dumas, Dostoevsky, Poe, Proust, Schiller, Dickens, Fitzgerald (set), Verne, Kafka, Cervantes, Woolf, Faulkner, Shaw, Mann, Twain, Collodi, Swift, Balzac, Defoe, Tolstoy, Shakespeare, Saint-Exupery, Homer & Kipling. Montblanc Einstein (3,000) FP. Montblanc Heritage 1912 Resin FP. Montblanc Starwalker Resin: FP/BP/MP. Montblanc Traveller FP.

#9 georgeb

georgeb

    Vintage

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 484 posts

Posted 22 February 2015 - 22:02

I think the answer is 42.



#10 ajcoleman

ajcoleman

    Vintage

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 661 posts
  • Flag:

Posted 22 February 2015 - 22:14

My first thought was you are a collector if you buy one more than you  need.

 

The question becomes then what do you need. I could easily justify two: one plus a spare. But then you NEED another pen so you can use a different color ink, then you NEED both a fine and a medium, then you NEED a nicer pen for long writing sessions.... then you NEED to try a piston filler. Then you NEED... Before long you have a bunch of pens. Then you realize if buy this particular pen, you  will have one of each color, or some significant number of some model or brand or in some other way complete or add to your set of pens in some fashion. You buy an additional pen because of what you already have. You are officially a collector.


Adam
Dayton, OH

It is the glory of God to conceal a matter; to search out a matter is the glory of kings.

-- Prov 25:2


#11 fullfederhalter

fullfederhalter

    Rare

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 180 posts
  • Flag:

Posted 22 February 2015 - 23:18

I think "collector" is a label, and attempts to define it by numbers is too simplistic.  Right where I am presently sitting I can see four oil paintings, yet I would never consider myself an art collector.  On the other hand, I do consider myself a "collector of writing instruments" (fountain pen collector is too restraining) because I have actively acquired, studied, curated, and displayed my pens and pencils.  My collection began when I consciously decided that I wanted to collect--not when I had acquired a certain number.  Of course, YMMV.

 

Dale



#12 inkstainedruth

inkstainedruth

    Ancient Artifact

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 18,253 posts
  • Flag:

Posted 23 February 2015 - 02:29

I think the answer is 42.

So, what you're saying is that FP use and accumulation is the Answer to Life, the Universe and Everything?   :lol: 

Cool beans.

Ruth Morrisson aka inkstainedruth


"It's very nice, but frankly, when I signed that list for a P-51, what I had in mind was a fountain pen."

#13 Parse Error

Parse Error

    Not broken... yet

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 889 posts
  • Location:Central California
  • Flag:

Posted 23 February 2015 - 03:23

If you have uninked pens laying about you're probably a collector...


Visconti Homo Sapiens; Lamy 2000; Unicomp Endurapro keyboard.

Free your mind -- go write

#14 JonSzanto

JonSzanto

    You do, indeed, only live once.

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,397 posts

Posted 23 February 2015 - 03:32

number is irrelevant. How you relate to the pens you have is the answer.


"When Men differ in Opinion, both Sides ought equally to have the Advantage of being heard by the Publick; and that when Truth and Error have fair Play, the former is always an overmatch for the latter."
~ Benjamin Franklin

#15 AuthorofDarkness

AuthorofDarkness

    Vintage

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 727 posts
  • Location:Coast of Maine
  • Flag:

Posted 23 February 2015 - 04:37

I would say 10 because then you have a small collection...

#16 penomaniac

penomaniac

    Near Mint

  • Member - Silver

  • PipPipPip
  • 25 posts
  • Location:everywhere and nowhere

Posted 23 February 2015 - 05:39

I think the answer is 42.

That would be my son's answer as it is the answer to the universe. but do you have 42? ;)

#17 CeeElle

CeeElle

    Extremely Rare

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 391 posts
  • Flag:

Posted 23 February 2015 - 09:17

Agree with some of the comments that it isn't about the number. I think when you start seeking or researching variants of the same pen or brand that makes you a collector. Sorry, but there isn't a single reason in the world that justifies those of us who own 51's with different caps

Short cuts make delays, but inns make longer ones.
Frodo Baggins, The Fellowship of the Ring, A Short Cut to Mushrooms


#18 ISW_Kaputnik

ISW_Kaputnik

    Antique

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,719 posts
  • Flag:

Posted 23 February 2015 - 13:48

I think collecting is about attitude. It's about being interested in the things and in the history behind them. So you could have a collector's attitude to fountain pens and only have one pen, if you had spent a lot of time finding out about, say, your Vacumatic, how to date it, where it fitted in the Parker universe, and so on. But in the nature of things, if you do all that work, you'll probably end up owning more than one Vacumatic, indeed more than one Parker...

 

That's more or less how I see it.  When I first started trying out fountain pens, each new pen was bought with the idea getting a better, or at least different, writing experience.  I still would not buy a pen without intending to write with it.  At some point, though, I started buying pens that were merely interesting to me, without any idea that they would be better than what I already had.

 

I probably became a collector when I already had a couple of Esterbrook Js, but decided that I wanted to get them in a few more colors rather than just buying new nibs for them.  Or maybe it was when I saw a vintage Conklin Crescent filler and decided that I just had to have one.

 

For myself, this works better with vintage pens, but apparently there are people who want to get every color of Lamy Safari, or special editions like that maple Vanishing Point that came out a year or two ago.

 

Maybe another aspect of being a collector, and this relates to the original "how many pens" question, is that you don't consider selling off or giving away pens merely because you have too many.  There are pens that I'd like to sell because they simply don't interest me any more, but there are others that I'll keep even though I'm unlikely to write with them again.


"So convenient a thing it is to be a reasonable creature, since it enables one to find or make a reason for everything one has a mind to do." - Benjamin Franklin

#19 ANM

ANM

    Donor Pen

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,925 posts
  • Location:Kansas City Ks.

Posted 23 February 2015 - 14:05

I don't see collecting as a pejorative concept, so I don't worry about what someone else thinks.. 

 

Buy what you can afford and what pleases you and enjoy them.  Resell the ones you don't want anymore, but you will never find the really good ones if you stop at two or six because you don't want be a "collector".  It's such a relative term.


Edited by ANM, 23 February 2015 - 14:28.

And the end of all our exploring
Will be to arrive where we started
And know the place for the first time. TS Eliot

#20 deepak23

deepak23

    Sittin-on-a-gate

  • Member - Gold

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 774 posts
  • Flag:

Posted 23 February 2015 - 14:46

That would be my son's answer as it is the answer to the universe. but do you have 42? ;)


Incidentally am on 84 as my Wing Sung 590, bought only because people here were appreciative of it ,landed the day before.

Guess I have twice the answers I need :-)

A lifelong FP user...






Also tagged with one or more of these keywords: pens, collections, collecting



Sponsored Content




|