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Coin-fillers - a example and some information


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#1 antoniosz

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Posted 06 June 2005 - 01:39

A Coin-Filler from the early 20th century

Sheaffer patented the lever filler in 1908. Around 1910 the Weidlich company patented the matchstick filler. A small rod mounted on the pen or a common matchstick or the tip of a pencil could press the pressure bar through a hole in the side of the barrel. Lewis Waterman in an attempt to compete with the winning lever filler patent of Sheaffer developed the coin-filler. A slot in the barrel of the pen allowed a coin to deflate the rubber sac, a similar idea to the matchstick filler.

The pen below is a no-name coin-filler presumably between 1910-1925.

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Incidentally, I thought about posting this pen for sale , but I started playing with it and changed my mind :) So at the end it became an article here :)

Modern coin fillers do exist: see for example the Marlen Aureo 2002

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The ad below is an early Waterman's ad of coin-fillers (or pocket self fillers as they called them).

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This link points to an article with relevant information on Waterman Coin-fillers by M. Fultz

If you have more information about this type of pens please post here (photos, patents etc.)

Edited by antoniosz, 21 March 2007 - 02:37.


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#2 rhr

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Posted 06 June 2005 - 08:32

The Weidlich & Simpson matchstick filler patent no. 766,560 dates to August 1904. Curiously, they used the name "Simplofiller" before Mont Blanc used it.

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#3 ElaineB

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Posted 06 June 2005 - 16:14

Very cool! Thanks to you both for the illustrations and information. (AZ, your penmanship and drawing abilities are a never-ending source pleasure for me!)

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Posted 06 June 2005 - 23:03

Yeah I'd echo that, your handwriting and drawing skills are amazing ^_^. Nice and informative, I think it adds a little bit extra to a pen if theres an interesting fill mechanism :)

#5 antoniosz

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Posted 07 June 2005 - 00:09

:blush: Thanks, ElaineB and zxc. :blush:

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Posted 04 August 2005 - 02:17

Whoa, VERY nice. So instead of a lever, you insert coin

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Posted 04 August 2005 - 02:27

I completely missed that thread. Thanks Antonios !

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Posted 04 August 2005 - 02:43

I missed this one too, somehow. Thanks for the neat info AZ. I echo the comments on your hand and drawing abilities. Always a joy to see both. Thanks again.
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#9 antoniosz

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Posted 05 August 2005 - 22:18

Thanks Denis/sothhpaw/garageboy.
Denis sorry but SF is out of reach ... but if you make it to Phila in January for our show (or any time) we can arrange it. I give lessons you bring the wine and cheese ;)

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Posted 12 December 2005 - 00:00

To revive this old thread, I have in my hands a coin-filler from the Star company of Cincinnatti which a cap that says patented on July 5, 1904. I am not 100% that the cap belongs to the pen (the pattern is identical but the degree of wear is not the same). If for a second we assume that it is correct, does this pattent refer to a coin-filler? I looked into US patent office and patents from 763948 to 764540 were issued on July 5, 1904. I went through 763,965 but this is painful. Does anybody know which patent this cap is refering to?

As we learned from RHR (see posting above) there is a patent for matchstick fillers from the Weidlich & Simpson company - patent no. 766,560 (August 1904). Weidlich folded into Star in 1921 (please correct me if I am wrong). I am not sure if and how all these are connected by if you have any info I would appreciate it receiving it.

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Posted 12 December 2005 - 00:31

What a great diagram of an interesting pen. I have seen pictures of coin fillers, but nothing with the detail of your drawing. Could you, or any other readers, tell me if there is anything special about the sac replacement? Does it take standard ink sacs?

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Posted 12 December 2005 - 00:54

What a great diagram of an interesting pen. I have seen pictures of coin fillers, but nothing with the detail of your drawing. Could you, or any other readers, tell me if there is anything special about the sac replacement? Does it take standard ink sacs?

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Sure! :)

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Posted 12 December 2005 - 15:08

OK with the help of some people on Zoss we figured out that the patent in question is August Eberstein's patent 764,227 for the invention of the inner cap. Unfortunately unrelated to the coin filler :(

Oso, thanks for your kind words. As Dillo said, a coin filler uses same sacs as a regular lever filler (in fact I find them more convinient that the level fillers since I have short nails :))

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Posted 07 April 2006 - 18:22

To pick up on antoniosz' great coin filler thread, here is one I picked up and restored recently. It writes well and all I had to do was clean up the nib (an original Banker) and install a new sac.

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and you can see the coin slot in this second picture:

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#15 JRodriguez

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Posted 09 April 2006 - 07:57

Neat pen! Thanks for adding this. I'd never seen one of these before.

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Posted 15 October 2006 - 16:31

Here is another matchstick filler to add to antoniosz's great post. The only picture I have of it is with the coin filler I posted above. Sorry for the duplication.



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Posted 16 December 2006 - 21:57

Just found this old thread. To add my 2˘ I found this old Bankers coin filler a few years back. The nib is a #2 Bankers 14k, and the pen says "Bankers Pen Co 1 Madison Ave New York"

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Posted 16 December 2006 - 23:12

Sometimes a coin or match or paper clip can be used on a lever-fill pen with a missing/broken lever. I wonder if this is how the idea developed.

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#19 Dennis B

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Posted 17 December 2006 - 04:43

QUOTE(amh210 @ Dec 16 2006, 05:12 PM)
Sometimes a coin or match or paper clip can be used on a lever-fill pen with a missing/broken lever. I wonder if this is how the idea developed.

Andy

Andy,

At least in the case of Waterman, the Coin Filler came before the Lever Filler. Right before the Coin Filler was the 1XSF Sleeve or Thumb Filler. Here's a pic of a Waterman BCHR 12V PSF Coin Filler of mine.



Only one other Coin Filler here and that's a no name BCHR that came in a Lakeside box. The pen is unmarked as to maker. The pressure bar is the Duryea patent.



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Posted 17 December 2006 - 06:02

Good evening gang!
I'm just getting back on FPN now and have some pics to add to this coin filler/matchstick filler funfest. Got some different ones than whats been shown.

From left to right:
SOLAR, BHR with nib imprinted BON TON 14K
EAGLE, Brass with gold-plated nib
MARVEL, Enameled Brass with gold-plated nib (looks like it was made by Eagle for them!)



Got some more but will have to do some scans along with a few matchstick filler pens.
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