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Fake Pelikan 140 Found By Pelikan Turkey Dealer


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Two days a go Turkey Pelikan Official Dealer ÇELİK KALEM=STEEL PEN CO. published in INSTAGRAM a public announcement that they captured fake vintage Pelikan 140 FPs built in Crotia.

And they ask to do not buy the Pelikan 140s because they are fake. And they are telling Counterfeit team captured in Crotia with the collaboration of Pelikan Germany.

I never seen or heard a fake vintage Pelikan FPs with real gold nibs. If there is someone who make me clear about this subject I will be very glad.

And here is the INSTAGRAM Anouncement of STEEL PEN CO @pelikankalem in INSTAGRAM

 

 

 

 

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Than Pelikan 140 looks perfectly legit! Even the box is correct. There are no records of vintage Pelikan 140 counterfeit so far and why would they do that in the low end model of Pelikan, It would be more worthy to do it in a Pelikan 400 or in the 100 or 100N tortoiseshell...

 

This could be a dealers fight...

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I agree with Piscov. Nothing in that photograph suggest a fake. By what criteria is this being declared a fake? I have not heard of 140's being forged previously and given their position in Pelikan's line-up, it would seem odd.

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I agree, it makes no sense to copy that model given it's price. If one can fake a German piston filler there are so many at a significantly higher price point that would make more sense to copy them. In fact, at the price 140s sell it would almost make more sense if one has the capacity, to simply make and sell pens under ones own brand name. But if they were copied 50 to 60 years ago, the economics might have been different, especially if they were made in Yugoslavia for sale to those of the Eastern Bloc who did not have access to authentic German production.

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Than Pelikan 140 looks perfectly legit! Even the box is correct. There are no records of vintage Pelikan 140 counterfeit so far and why would they do that in the low end model of Pelikan, It would be more worthy to do it in a Pelikan 400 or in the 100 or 100N tortoiseshell...

 

This could be a dealers fight...

Thanks for your explanation. All the reasons you pointed are logic. There no reason acceptable to produce a copy of vintage Pelikan.

As you said this is a fight of Pelikans Turkey Dealer ÇELİK KALEM. But "fight with what". This will hurt a name of Pelikan International. I never seen Pelikan International published an public announcement about this subject.

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I agree with Piscov. Nothing in that photograph suggest a fake. By what criteria is this being declared a fake? I have not heard of 140's being forged previously and given their position in Pelikan's line-up, it would seem odd.

I agree with you. There is no logic reason to produce a vintage Pelikan FPs. I dont know by which criteria Pelikans Turkey Dealer ÇELİK KALEM decided they are fake. Thats the real and important point to make a deep research by Pelikan International.

Thanks for your explanation.

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Someone of low financial means who is scrabbling to get hold of a Pelikan 140 as their first vintage Pelikan may be less critical of the pen they are buying and miss that it is a fake. At the higher price points the buyer may be much more cautious and thorough in their assessment of the pen.

 

If there are fake Pelikan 140 pens out there it is because there is a perceived market for them. Not saying there is, just that it is possible, and cannot be discounted only on price point.

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I agree, it makes no sense to copy that model given it's price. If one can fake a German piston filler there are so many at a significantly higher price point that would make more sense to copy them. In fact, at the price 140s sell it would almost make more sense if one has the capacity, to simply make and sell pens under ones own brand name. But if they were copied 50 to 60 years ago, the economics might have been different, especially if they were made in Yugoslavia for sale to those of the Eastern Bloc who did not have access to authentic German production.

thanks for your logical explanation including Europe history. I agree with you. Why they are not manufacturing a classic piston filler FP with gold nib under the different brand name If someone has enough technology to do that.

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Someone of low financial means who is scrabbling to get hold of a Pelikan 140 as their first vintage Pelikan may be less critical of the pen they are buying and miss that it is a fake. At the higher price points the buyer may be much more cautious and thorough in their assessment of the pen.

 

If there are fake Pelikan 140 pens out there it is because there is a perceived market for them. Not saying there is, just that it is possible, and cannot be discounted only on price point.

The target you pointed makes me thinking about the level of investment and technology to do a Pelikans low end FP.

Because Turkeys vintage Pelikan FPs market is not large. For example a NOS Pelikan 140 price is around the 190 US$

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Interestingly, we had simmilar situation in Poland: one of our pen friends posted a vintage Montblanc 136 (as I remember) on local auction site.The auction was halted by the auction site provider after a "fake!" complaint of some , said "montblanc authorities" hunting for fakes.The complete ignorance of the history and models produced is typical for today's "specialists".Isn't it the case in here?

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