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#1 Armand.D

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Posted 10 January 2015 - 13:01

Hello everyone,

 

I am searching for a new pen to use at school, I am currently using a F Safari since 1month and a half.

 

I had bad experiences with some parkers 45 so I searched and now I am hesitating about some "cheap" combos, especially with indian or chinese pens, as i think some could give an enjoyable writing experience.

 

Here are the combos :

 

  • Jinhao X450 + Goulet #6 nib
  • Jinhao X450 + FPR #6 nib

 

  • FPR Triveni Jr with #5.5 nib

 

These are around ~20-30$, I especially like the Triveni for his triple-filling system, I write a lot at school and an eyedropper solution can be appreciable, in fact i'm just searching for a great ratio quality/cost combo,

 

so if you know other cool combos that i can think about, other brands etc to look at, I'm in :)

 

 

Other : For info my favourite ink used is Noodler's Q'ternity (FD), if there are any problems tell me, Thank you.

 

Edit : Do you know how performs the FPR nibs compared to the Jowo/Goulet ones ?

 

FPR → 10$ (shipping in)

Goulet → 21,50 $ (shipping in)


Edited by Armand.D, 10 January 2015 - 14:34.


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Posted 10 January 2015 - 13:39

I've heard very good reviews about the Goulet nibs. You won't go wrong with them, and their customer service is exemplary. 



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Posted 10 January 2015 - 13:41

I put a Goulet 1.1 stub in my Noodler's Konrad and it is seriously one of the best writers I own.  


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#4 Armand.D

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Posted 10 January 2015 - 14:29

I've heard very good reviews about the Goulet nibs. You won't go wrong with them, and their customer service is exemplary. 

 

I put a Goulet 1.1 stub in my Noodler's Konrad and it is seriously one of the best writers I own.  

Ok, that's nice.

In Europe, I have access to Ahabs & Nib Creapers so it makes new options to deal with, Thank you.



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Posted 11 January 2015 - 12:55

 

Ok, that's nice.

In Europe, I have access to Ahabs & Nib Creapers so it makes new options to deal with, Thank you.

Check out ASApen's Spear model. Comes with a JoWo nib and converter I think. 



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Posted 11 January 2015 - 14:04

 

Ok, that's nice.

In Europe, I have access to Ahabs & Nib Creapers so it makes new options to deal with, Thank you.

Nib Creapers do not use the same #6 nibs as Ahabs and Konrads.



#7 Armand.D

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Posted 11 January 2015 - 15:30

Nib Creapers do not use the same #6 nibs as Ahabs and Konrads.

Ok, thanks.



#8 Armand.D

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Posted 11 January 2015 - 15:32

Check out ASApen's Spear model. Comes with a JoWo nib and converter I think. 

I prefer to go with the Triveni Jr from FPR, which is also made in India.

I will order it in a few days, my choice is done, Thank you (Gama pens are good quality for sure).



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Posted 11 January 2015 - 19:47

The Platinum Preppy (plastic) or more durable (metal) Plasir would make an ideal pen for school. Preppies can also be converted to eyedroppers with a minimum of fuss.

 

If you want something more sophisticated, then I've been very impressed with Faber-Castell's Loom, which I've been boring members of this forum with since. It's far better than the Parker IMs and Pelikan's that are available at roughly the same price. 

 

Alternatively, there are some Cross gift sets that are being heavily discounted at the moment - so you can get a matching FP and biro for not much.  



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Posted 11 January 2015 - 20:32

The Platinum Preppy (plastic) or more durable (metal) Plasir would make an ideal pen for school. Preppies can also be converted to eyedroppers with a minimum of fuss.

 

If you want something more sophisticated, then I've been very impressed with Faber-Castell's Loom, which I've been boring members of this forum with since. It's far better than the Parker IMs and Pelikan's that are available at roughly the same price. 

 

Alternatively, there are some Cross gift sets that are being heavily discounted at the moment - so you can get a matching FP and biro for not much.  

I will probably take a preppy, but not as a first pen, as a cheaper pen to write on copy paper it is a very good deal to my mind.

Thank you for the other suggestions, I will see.



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Posted 12 January 2015 - 22:19

You could try a Pilot Metropolitan. They are only $15 (although I hate the converter they come with, you should upgrade to the CON-50 converter).

I don't have a Metropolitan, but I do have two other Pilots that are are said to use the same nibs, a Knight and a Prera. Once of those nibs is a really great nib, just as good as the ones on Pelikan M200s. (The other one is ehhh... not so great.)



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Posted 13 January 2015 - 00:28

 

Hello everyone,

 

I am searching for a new pen to use at school, I am currently using a F Safari since 1month and a half.

 

I had bad experiences with some parkers 45 so I searched and now I am hesitating about some "cheap" combos, especially with indian or chinese pens, as i think some could give an enjoyable writing experience.

...

 

These are around ~20-30$, I especially like the Triveni for his triple-filling system, I write a lot at school and an eyedropper solution can be appreciable, in fact i'm just searching for a great ratio quality/cost combo,

 

so if you know other cool combos that i can think about, other brands etc to look at, I'm in :)

 

What bad experience did you have with the Parker 45?

I suspect you may have had a damaged nib or and old pen that was clogged with dry ink which was not properly cleaned out.

 

I used 2 Parker 45s through undergrad and graduate school in college.  And that was a LOT of writing.

I carried 2 Parker 45s in college.  When pen #1 ran out of ink, I just switched to pen #2, very easy and fast.

In fact I currently have 2 Parker 45s inked and in use.

 

WARNING, eyedroppers are not the ideal large capacity pen you may be thinking of.  As the ink level drops, there is more air in the pen.  Your hand holding the pen will heat up the air in the pen, and..."blurp" the pen may eject ink onto your paper.


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#13 Arkanabar

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Posted 13 January 2015 - 02:30

WARNING, eyedroppers are not the ideal large capacity pen you may be thinking of.  As the ink level drops, there is more air in the pen.  Your hand holding the pen will heat up the air in the pen, and..."blurp" the pen may eject ink onto your paper.

This is pretty much why I've avoided putting my ED pen to use.  It's something you have to keep filled if you want to use it safely.  I have one I intend to use with a bottle of Chersterfield Archival Vault, with the expectation that I'll top it off whenever it's half empty, and because it's an iron gall ink, clean weekly.



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Posted 13 January 2015 - 04:29

 

 

WARNING, eyedroppers are not the ideal large capacity pen you may be thinking of.  As the ink level drops, there is more air in the pen.  Your hand holding the pen will heat up the air in the pen, and..."blurp" the pen may eject ink onto your paper.

Yep, this is why I was suggesting the Spear. It comes with a JoWo nib which is heavily finned and so prevents this burping. A normal Indian feed will burp a lot after it passes a certain point. Also, any jerky hand movements and you'll find ink on your page. The discount on it seems to be over now though.

Anyway, good luck with whatever you choose! I checked out the Triveni and those flex nibs look quite cool.



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Posted 13 January 2015 - 11:50

Yep, this is why I was suggesting the Spear. It comes with a JoWo nib which is heavily finned and so prevents this burping. A normal Indian feed will burp a lot after it passes a certain point. Also, any jerky hand movements and you'll find ink on your page. The discount on it seems to be over now though.

Anyway, good luck with whatever you choose! I checked out the Triveni and those flex nibs look quite cool.

Thanks, indeed the Spear looks quite nice too, at ~32€ it's aproximately the same price as the Triveni.

There are also similar on the filling system, i don't think that i should have problems.

 

I am between these two now ;)

 

Edit : It is a M nib, so i'm more on Triveni because of the choice (I prefer finers) , if you know similar pens (indians are good for the price) with this filling system i'm interested.


Edited by Armand.D, 13 January 2015 - 11:56.


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Posted 13 January 2015 - 11:52

This is pretty much why I've avoided putting my ED pen to use.  It's something you have to keep filled if you want to use it safely.  I have one I intend to use with a bottle of Chersterfield Archival Vault, with the expectation that I'll top it off whenever it's half empty, and because it's an iron gall ink, clean weekly.

Thank you for the warning. (a triple filling system can also be use with a converter, and i won't use iron-gall inks so that's why interested in these types of pen)



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Posted 13 January 2015 - 13:10

Thanks, indeed the Spear looks quite nice too, at ~32€ it's aproximately the same price as the Triveni.

There are also similar on the filling system, i don't think that i should have problems.

 

I am between these two now ;)

 

Edit : It is a M nib, so i'm more on Triveni because of the choice (I prefer finers) , if you know similar pens (indians are good for the price) with this filling system i'm interested.

Contact the seller and ask about your options. He's quite friendly and accommodating. No affiliation of course. 



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Posted 17 January 2015 - 01:57

Would also recommend the Wality 69 and 71 also. Well build and writes an Indian Fine (finer than a western F but broader than Japanese F). These are eyedroppers. FPR and ASA sell these (N.A)
The 69TL is a demonstrator and I use inks that match the color of the pen.

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Posted 17 January 2015 - 02:50

I have to second the suggestion of Pilot as a good brand for cheap pens, the Metropolitan or MR is available in Europe and inexpensive, I've never had trouble with my MRs and I use them every day (along with my Pilot 78G), Pilot pens have much better quality control than Indian or Chinese pens and are engineered to last regardless of the price and look nice.

Since you already mentioned Goulet pens here's the link to their page of Metropolitans: http://www.gouletpen...ropolitan/c/191

And here are the Pilot EU website links: http://www.pilotpen....medium-nib.html

There are also other options - Kakuno is a school pen and looks like it, the 78G is a plastic pen that looks professional and comes in smaller nib sizes. There's also an italic option (the Plumix) and for a bit more you can get the Prera (I don't really think you need to, the $10 78G works great as a light plastic pen). These pens all have interchangeable nibs so you can mix and match if you want to and can be disassembled for cleaning, which is a nice touch that makes cleaning much easier.

Edited by WirsPlm, 17 January 2015 - 02:50.


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Posted 18 January 2015 - 19:27

Would also recommend the Wality 69 and 71 also. Well build and writes an Indian Fine (finer than a western F but broader than Japanese F). These are eyedroppers. FPR and ASA sell these (N.A)
The 69TL is a demonstrator and I use inks that match the color of the pen.

Thank you !







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