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#1 Aetheric Continua

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Posted 07 January 2015 - 16:59

I've done some searching but couldn't quite find what I'm looking for.

 

I recently purchased a VP with a Fine nib and it's just finer than I would like, so I'm planning on getting a Medium nib unit later in the month.

 

Later in the year I'm hoping to get my hands on a Custom 823. Before I got my VP I was thinking about getting the 823 in a Fine but now I'm likely to go with the medium. Only thing is, from what I've read on the forums, Pilot's VP Medium writes rather similarly to a Western Medium and that there's no real happy medium.

 

Is this the case with the 823? How does a VP Medium compare to a 823 Medium?

 

 

Thanks in advance for any input :)


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#2 rafapa

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Posted 07 January 2015 - 18:27

My experience is that VP sizes are similar to "european" ones wereas other Pilot nibs are "japanese".
I have an CH 92 B and an VP M and both write similar.

#3 LuisAAbrilRomero

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Posted 07 January 2015 - 20:13

I own one Pilot M 90 in F, one PC 823 in M and F each, and several Vanishing Point nib units in M and F each. In my experience, the VP nibs are indeed a tad wider than their counterparts on the PC 823, while the P M90 F is pretty similar to my VP nib units in Fine.

 

Hope that helps.



#4 Aetheric Continua

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Posted 08 January 2015 - 14:02

So the Custom 823's nibs more closely follows the "one-size-down" rule of thumb and the VPs are exceptions?

 

Medium 823 for me it is then :) Thanks all~
 


"I have nixed all Noodler's inks in large part because of their feel, but also their behavior, etc.  When I put Iroshizuku or Sailor ink into my pens, it's like the ink, pen, and paper are having a 3-some with smooth 'n sultry 70's jazz playing in the background." ~ Betweenthelines


#5 benay148

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Posted 08 January 2015 - 14:35

My vanishing point medium is a western medium for sure. It is the same size as my safari medium. It does seem to be the exception to the Japanese one size down rule.

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Posted 09 January 2015 - 05:43

All I know is that I just acquired the 823 with a B nib, and it is fantastic. I have a VP with a M nib, and I actually feel it might be a tad wider than my 823. My VP nib is so juicy though it's not quite a fair comparison. The 823 with a B nib is so smooth and so luscious it's hard to believe at times. It does not put down a wide line, in my opinion. I have a Waterman with an 18k M nib that writes a wider line. The 823 lays a very crisp line. I can't say enough good things about it.


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#7 Oranges and Apples

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Posted 09 January 2015 - 05:51

The Medium in the Pilot Vanishing Points are wider than other Mediums in the Pilot line.



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Posted 11 January 2015 - 09:07

yes piolot VP nibs are designed to open the door hence have to be stronger hence the width increase compared to the other pilot pens


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#9 Aetheric Continua

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Posted 12 January 2015 - 13:56

The Medium in the Pilot Vanishing Points are wider than other Mediums in the Pilot line.

Thanks for the nice and concise reply :)

 

And thanks to everyone who replied (: I will more than likely get the 823 in a medium. I need more experience with Pilot/Japanese pens anyway ;)

 

Now I have to decide if I should save for the 823 or for a pen show...
 


Edited by Aetheric Continua, 12 January 2015 - 13:57.

"I have nixed all Noodler's inks in large part because of their feel, but also their behavior, etc.  When I put Iroshizuku or Sailor ink into my pens, it's like the ink, pen, and paper are having a 3-some with smooth 'n sultry 70's jazz playing in the background." ~ Betweenthelines


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Posted 14 January 2015 - 03:20

Everyone has there own experiences with these pens and I have plenty of them in front of me "write" now......the VP fine has always been a "tad" finer in downstroke line width compared to the #5 thru #15 nibs.

 

The VP Mediums in my arsenal (5 of them using Aurora and Iroshizuku inks) have always been undifferentiated between any other Pilot/Namiki Medium nib.......similarities for the most part can only be said for the Medium VP nibs not all of them.....this is relation to ink flow and down/cross stroke line width.


Edited by PinarelloOnly, 14 January 2015 - 03:23.






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