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#1 candlejack

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Posted 23 December 2014 - 11:04

Hello FPN,

 

I'm not a regular contribuiter here, but I do love writing/schetching and fountain pens. I'm on my 4th Pelikan now.. started slow with an M200, then an M800, M400 and now M1000.

 

To me the Souveran design is the best in the world: fits my grip best and the esthetics are top notch too.

 

Now on to my request. I can get quite obsessed by the "perfection" level of a pen so I end up noticing all kinds of things that probably normal people don't bother with. One of the things I've noticed with my M800 and M1000 is the presence of some rings around where the striated part of the barrel meets with the section. I am adding a picture to show what I mean exactly. This is truly visible only when the the light strikes the pen at a specific angle.

 

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I'm just wondering, do your pens have this as well? Thanks in advance for responding and HAPPY HOLIDAYS!

 

PS: please feel free to add your own pictures of this.


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#2 Charles Rice

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Posted 23 December 2014 - 12:08

Mine - no.  But about half an inch further back wear marks from screwing and un-screwing the cap of course.



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Posted 23 December 2014 - 12:20

None on mine (M800 Green striated).



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Posted 23 December 2014 - 12:21

My brown tortoise M800 does not have that appearance.  I'm not sure that it's anything to be concerned about as long as the pen is functioning properly.


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Posted 23 December 2014 - 12:24

My 2 M1000s (black) and my Green M800 pens dont have the marks like your picture.



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Posted 23 December 2014 - 12:29

They look like threads that are inside the barrel to me


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Posted 23 December 2014 - 12:40

They look like threads that are inside the barrel to me

 

I don't think they are threads because as far as I can see each is an individual circle (not part of a helix).

 

My brown tortoise M800 does not have that appearance.  I'm not sure that it's anything to be concerned about as long as the pen is functioning properly.

 

I think you are right, but it will probably always bother me when I see it. Wondering if I should ask for another one, but since I've already seen 2 pens having this issue it might be quite likely that the next one is the same. That's what I was trying to gauge with this post: how frequent is it?

 

0-4 so far..


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Posted 23 December 2014 - 12:48

Not on my m800 green demo...

 

But I do something but it is not exactly as yours on my m600 white honey...



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Posted 23 December 2014 - 13:53

Not on any of my pens either.  



#10 candlejack

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Posted 23 December 2014 - 14:10

If someone who doesn't have the issue has the technical means, could you take a similar picture of your pen? I'd just like to have a reference for future comparisons.


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Posted 23 December 2014 - 16:07

"I can get quite obsessed by the "perfection" level of a pen so I end up noticing all kinds of things that probably normal people don't bother with."

 

 

This, rather than a few nearly invisible rings on your pen, is your real issue.



#12 candlejack

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Posted 23 December 2014 - 16:28

"I can get quite obsessed by the "perfection" level of a pen so I end up noticing all kinds of things that probably normal people don't bother with."

 

 

This, rather than a few nearly invisible rings on your pen, is your real issue.

 

Why the hate? It's not like I called you in the middle of the night to ask this question.


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Posted 23 December 2014 - 16:29

No such marks on my M800 Tortoise

 

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Posted 23 December 2014 - 16:38

No such marks on my M800 Tortoise

 

Thanks whichwatch!


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Posted 24 December 2014 - 20:07

I do not have any such marks on my green striped M1000 nor on my blue striped M800.


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Posted 25 December 2014 - 10:25

 
Why the hate? It's not like I called you in the middle of the night to ask this question.

I don't think it's meant as hate. But he/she is implying that you may be a bit.... well, frankly, nitpicking. Everything man made has its imperfections. If the pen functions and writes well, I'd be satisfied with it.

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Posted 25 December 2014 - 13:28

Life is too short to be AR about such things that can only be seen in certain lights.

Once aware of certain small oddities, it will continue to bother you. Return the pen, tell them you don't want one with those 'problems'.

 

Do stay way from non NOS Vintage pens.


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German vintage '50-70 semi-flex stubs and those in oblique give the real thing in On Demand line variation. Modern Oblique is a waste of money for a shadow of line variation. Being too lazy to Hunt for affordable vintage oblique pens, lets you 'hunt' for line variation instead of having it.

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Posted 28 December 2014 - 23:15

Those are threads.  Take a look at some of the translucent caps in the Cities series, San Francisco, Shanghai, et., and you can see the exact same pattern inside the cap.  http://www.nibs.com/...StckPage.htm#SF  My guess is that barrel is both screwed on and glued/epoxied.  Maybe someone on the Pelikan sub-forum knows the assembly process for the the pens?  The OP may have a pen where slightly more than normal of the threads are showing or he has the light perfectly focused.  I know that when I checked my pens they were inked,  Duhh!  I will check again when I flush the next one.

 

Original Poster: your first post says that you noticed these rings/threads on both your M800 and M1000, would you mind post pictures of both pens?  How did you light the picture that you posted?  And, where your pens purchased from an authorized Pelikan dealer?



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Posted 29 December 2014 - 11:36

No I don't see the rings on my M1000 or 600. My 800 is a demonstrator and it is just the thing to have when I want to look inside the pen. I don't see the extra rings on it the way it appears in the picture.
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Posted 30 December 2014 - 03:10

If you look at the video here at 2:56, you can see them reaming the inside of the binde.  My guess is that the "threads" you see are just some spurious marks left by the reaming tool.


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