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Conway Stewart Back On Track ?

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#81 watch_art

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Posted 05 December 2014 - 19:02

I dunno about how it writes, but I'm sure it drives like stink!  :)  I'm not much of a race fan (Nascar or F1) but I do enjoy seeing the Stig blast around the track in those junk cars all the time.  :)


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#82 Happy Harry

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Posted 05 December 2014 - 21:28

BUT, I think the current holders of the EU trademark would love him to get the USA rights.

To be able to really make a good company he would then have to apply for the EU rights so they will get some money for the name.

 

As it is, they have a name but no money, and I would be flabbergasted if someone from the UK would buy/lease it from them before 2018.

 

D.ick

 

Conway Stewart Ltd. was incorporated on the 18th June 2013 with directors Mr Amos Peek and Mr John Sorowka. I'd suspect it wasn't simply because they liked the name !! Maybe there's more been going on behind the scenes than we know, we don't yet know why CSGBs cancelled the licence to the last UK incarnation of CS. Your last statement may be a bit premature, needless to say the issue of the UK TMs will be settled sooner rather than later because the majority shareholder in CSGB is being wound up. CS Ltd would, I suspect, be interested.

 

I'm sure those behind CS Ltd. would be far from happy with what's occurring with the US rights, which was a simple error as is Caltagirone's to keep the W-E TM up to date. Would someone else picking that up in an opportunistic move be ethical? The legalities and the ethics can be very different.

 

I suspect the OP was more a "fishing" exercise at present to judge sentiment to the move rather than "set in concrete".   


Edited by Happy Harry, 06 December 2014 - 03:50.


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Posted 07 December 2014 - 14:48

What I find particularly funny is how people who are so unconnected with the company feel the need to jump in with "ethics" and "morality".    If I am not mistaken, the previous edition of CS was exactly that - a new business started under an old brand.    And so is this one.

 

As long as it is done legally, more power to the OP.     CS is, like Monty Python's parrot, pushing up the daisies.   They get no special dispensation on what happens to their brand now - if it was important to them, they, or whoever the brand owners are, should have thought through it earlier.

 

People need to separate the realities of business and law from their own wishful romanticised idea of "how things should be".   There are plenty of defunct brand names that have been taken over by new, opportunistic businesspeople and revived.     

 

And how does the process followed by Manu to obtain the brand name change anything re the pens he is producing?   And as long as it is not illegal, this is something between him and the current copyright holders, not us*.   

 

Making a profit isnt a bad thing.    A lesson that CS apparently didnt realize.   Hopefully, the new version, if it takes off, will.

 

 

*Is it just me or is there a certain level of hubris in regular customers demanding answers from Manu?   Martin is a different story, given his business relationship with the erstwhile CS, but the rest of you?   Neither the old CS nor the new revival owe you ANY answers.     Atleast have the courtesy of asking politely, instead of with this sense of entitlement that seems to pervade through your posts.

 

Sheesh.


Edited by de_pen_dent, 07 December 2014 - 14:50.

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#84 Matlock

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Posted 07 December 2014 - 15:26

What I find particularly funny is how people who are so unconnected with the company feel the need to jump in with "ethics" and "morality".    If I am not mistaken, the previous edition of CS was exactly that - a new business started under an old brand.    And so is this one.

 

As long as it is done legally, more power to the OP.    

Sheesh.

 

The past is past but what we don't want is for it all to happen again. I think Martin has summed it up rather well.

The real problem is that Manu has announced that he is going to resurect CS before he has the means to do so. He has only APPLIED for the US trade name. If he gets it then he still has to obtain that trade name for the rest of the world before he can market the pens to the UK, EU. etc. As Happy Harry has said Manu is only fishing and, if he is not carefull, he will catch a very large crab. I don't know about "more power to the OP", at the moment he has none. But we shall see I have no doubt. 


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Posted 07 December 2014 - 16:05

It's still a "Conway Stewart".  I have always liked the pens but in my opinion the price point was just a little too high.  I've never had a problem wasting investing in fountain pens but for that reason many times I passed on the CS and "invested" in something else.



#86 RMN

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Posted 07 December 2014 - 16:56

OK.

 

I had hoped a normal conversation would be possible. But some members have to revert to name-calling. Which I have hidden.

So this topic is now closed.

Thank you to those with constructive opinions, pro and contra.

 

 

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