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Battle Of The Inks - Doppelgänger Edition

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#441 Lgsoltek

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Posted 06 January 2019 - 14:02

DA Magenta sheens a little bit more on Tomoe River. Apart from that there's barely a difference:

 

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Posted 20 February 2019 - 10:59

Perhaps someone mentioned it before, but Sailor Jentle Oku-Yama has very close doppelgängers in the threefoldness of Diamine's dark red inks - Oxblood, Red Dragon and Syrah. I cannot quite pinpoint which ink is the closest, that changes depending on the pen and paper I'm using, but I'd say that Oxblood is perhaps the least similar out of all three because of its lack of sheen. Oku-Yama is kind of in-between Oxblood and Syrah, so it would make sense to call Red Dragon closest, but even that one still lacks the deep red and violet hues that Oxblood and Syrah, respectively, have too much of. Looking at my swabs on Tomoe River, Syrah actually comes closest in both colour and sheen (and the colour of the sheen), but in writing it's too violet. It would make sense to mix the Diamines to get the perfect colour match for Oku-Yama, and then maybe let it evaporate a bit to get more sheen out of the new mixture.

 

 

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Posted 02 March 2019 - 07:59

I adore this thread and am grateful to all the folks who've put work/play into it. Thank you. 



#444 Lgsoltek

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Posted 12 May 2019 - 14:57

Sailor probably have several of the (basically same) red inks. Here's Irori (top) and Kobe #20 Motomachi Rouge (bottom):

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Posted 15 July 2019 - 11:38

Doppelgängers: Diamine Communication Breakdown vs KWZ Ink Red #1

Unless you look for the sheen of the Diamine at an angle, the two are indistinguishable.

 

(Tomoe River)

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It's the golden sheen that tells them apart.

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(Midori: The lines are drawn with the two inks alternately.)

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Posted 15 July 2019 - 13:50

Doppelgängers: Diamine Communication Breakdown vs KWZ Ink Red #1

Unless you look for the sheen of the Diamine at an angle, the two are indistinguishable.

 

(Tomoe River)

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It's the golden sheen that tells them apart.

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(Midori: The lines are drawn with the two inks alternately.)

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Wow! I've been eyeing both, so you just saved me some €!

Which one would you prefer in terms of flow and lubrication (and other properties) if you could only keep one?

 

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Posted 15 July 2019 - 14:34

 

Wow! I've been eyeing both, so you just saved me some €!

Which one would you prefer in terms of flow and lubrication (and other properties) if you could only keep one?

 

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Definitely the KWZI (I mentioned it in my individual reviews).


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Posted 15 July 2019 - 14:55

I love to look at red inks, but not usually flowing out of my own pens... :D

Your doodle is lovely. It inspires me to pick up whole-page doodling again... so thanks for that, too!


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Posted 15 July 2019 - 15:14

I love to look at red inks, but not usually flowing out of my own pens... :D
Your doodle is lovely. It inspires me to pick up whole-page doodling again... so thanks for that, too!


I find that even if you suck at drawing things (like me), full page doodles always look impressive!

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Posted 20 November 2019 - 13:29

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This is Monteverde red velvet with a 1.5 mm italic nib. I am thankful that Migo referenced it as a doppelganger for Montblanc red chalk.

 

 


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Posted 20 November 2019 - 17:39

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This is Monteverde red velvet with a 1.5 mm italic nib. I am thankful that Migo referenced it as a doppelganger for Montblanc red chalk.

 

 

 

Which one's the Red Chalk? :wacko:


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Posted 20 November 2019 - 18:12

Please excuse me in advance for what may be an idiotic question, but what's the best way to put ink on the sample cards?  Not the name, but the swatch.  I know people don't just pour it out!  I see so many lovely sample cards and even have a number of Robert Oster blanks one, but I'm not sure the correct way to use them.  :unsure:


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Posted 20 November 2019 - 19:11

Karma, in my post 455, the only red ink displayed is Monteverde red velvet. I don't own red chalk, unfortunately.


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Posted 20 November 2019 - 22:02

Please excuse me in advance for what may be an idiotic question, but what's the best way to put ink on the sample cards?  Not the name, but the swatch.  I know people don't just pour it out!  I see so many lovely sample cards and even have a number of Robert Oster blanks one, but I'm not sure the correct way to use them.  :unsure:

 

Some method differs but mostly use a cotton swab for the swatches.



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Posted 02 December 2019 - 18:19

I also doodle a swatch so that I can see what it looks like in my pen.  Others do spashes, and the easiest way to do that is from a syringe.


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Posted 24 February 2020 - 20:26

The closest I have found to Levenger Pomegranate is our friend Blackstone Red Cashmere

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