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#21 CaptainGroovy

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Posted 29 October 2014 - 21:51

I often wish MB hadn't discontinued the original Blueblack (not Midnight Blue).

 

I can agree with that and while we are wishing upon a star how about Racing Green as well.


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Posted 29 October 2014 - 21:52

Cyber6 that's brilliant.

 

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Posted 29 October 2014 - 22:11

I have a Mb 149 that came in the large square box. Inside that box is a bottle of Mb '149' ink that looks like it's blue black. Does anyone know which version of Mb BB this is? Obviously it doesn't have it's own box so I can't tell.



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Posted 29 October 2014 - 22:12

You should have a look at this current thread



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Posted 30 October 2014 - 00:57

Do you have any dates on the box anywhere?


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Posted 30 October 2014 - 10:52

My BB IG for some reason isn't matching with the scans I see.

 

Mine has a very steel 'grey' look to it, fade tint of green almost but not quite. Very different from the Midnight. 

 



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Posted 30 October 2014 - 18:37

Hmm... that color doesn't match mine. Here is a scan from 2012 when I purchased it...and the results from a 4 month fade test.

 

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Posted 30 October 2014 - 18:38

Cyber6 do you have Midnight Blue? Midnight blue is not the same as blue-black.


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Posted 30 October 2014 - 20:44

Cyber6 do you have Midnight Blue? Midnight blue is not the same as blue-black.

 

 

I only have the MontBlanc Iron Gall... bought it a few years ago and was giving a fair lecture on how to practice pen hygiene from the salesperson at the Montblanc Boutique..    

 

Are they both Iron Galls Midnight Blue and Blue-Black?...    I will have to dig the box out.

 

 

 

 

Edit.  It looks like I have here the Midnight Blue Iron Gall (Ferrogalic content)..   The Blue Black predates this one and comes in the old shoe "round shoe".


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Posted 30 October 2014 - 23:04

Since I upgraded my iPhone OS it it a PITA to post photos, but my triple comparison is done and even I am amazed. Will post when I get home from my bc appointment for 1st rad trmnt.

Here it is

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Posted 31 October 2014 - 09:38

With Mystery Black and Royal Blue mixed 10 parts blue to one part black you end up with quite a black ink with a very tiny hint of blue. Mix 15 parts blue with 1 part black and you get purple -  a very obvious purple! It's alright, and you could probably use it as an everyday because in a certain light it has a blue hint. 

 

Tried it out last night. Will see later if I can get any pics up of it if anyone is interested.



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Posted 31 October 2014 - 10:00

Hi,

 

I'm always interested in seeing the results of a blend.

 

A few quick things:

Most ink that says 'Black' on the label isn't Black - it is a blend of dyes that appear Black when at low Value (very dark). I suggest putting a drop of Black onto a wet swab, then running it across the sheet to determine the underlying hue. (Or add a drop of ink to a white saucer full of water.)

Black is very dominant, which greatly skews the mixing ratios. Perhaps I could best express this in that you're darkening Royal Blue, not tinting Black.
As such, I suggest diluting the Black ink to about 2:1 (66%) to start - or whatever ratio is necessary to get a dark Grey. So you are working with three ingredients: 

X*(2*Blk + 1*Water) + Y*RBl = Z*?? 
 

That takes a bit of triangulation rather than picking a spot along a straight line between Black and Royal Blue.

 

To avoid risk exposure to contamination of the main volume of ink by repeated dipping / stray ink, I transfer a few ml of ink from their bottles to wee vials / jars.

Consider starting with swabs first, then switching to a dip pen when/if you get close. Please do not be tempted to use an FP for dip sampling - I found that is a shortcut to nowhere.

In addition to keeping notes, to get the samples in the best relative position for comparison and ensure all samples are run, I sketch a template on the sheet before I start.

I suggest testing the safety of the recipe before trying it in an FP.

 

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Posted 31 October 2014 - 13:02

With Mystery Black and Royal Blue mixed 10 parts blue to one part black you end up with quite a black ink with a very tiny hint of blue. Mix 15 parts blue with 1 part black and you get purple -  a very obvious purple! It's alright, and you could probably use it as an everyday because in a certain light it has a blue hint. 

 

Tried it out last night. Will see later if I can get any pics up of it if anyone is interested.

 

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Posted 31 October 2014 - 16:32

I wonder if there is a thread on a board for people who are other types of artists, watercolor/acrylic/oil paints, etc. who are also discussing how to find a replacement for a discontinued but much loved shade of yellow ochre or phthalo blue.

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Posted 31 October 2014 - 21:43

I think it should go in inky recipes... though maybe not.


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Posted 01 November 2014 - 23:04

Check this:

 

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Posted 02 November 2014 - 00:17

Thank you, Mike.


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Posted 02 November 2014 - 00:25

Check this:

 

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Amazing; someone should sticky this!


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Posted 01 December 2014 - 11:43

Um......I guess I need to apologise. I forgot about this and when I was uploading some pics to my computer I found this picture and remembered. This is the mix that produces a peculiar purple.DSC_0154.JPG



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Posted 15 January 2015 - 16:52

It's early days yet, as I'm always wary of mixing stuff with ESSRI but - 3 parts ESSRI, 1 part Monteverde Black, 1 part Sailor Blue Black . . . looks the absolute spit of my Mont Blanc Midnight Blue original formula.

 

I'll post a swatch tomorrow when there's daylight.

 

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