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#1 pen69

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Posted 27 October 2014 - 11:08

can anyone help me
I find no info on these pen attach photos

have written patent 508 058
are new to the forum
I have many pens

 

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#2 yus2001fr

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Posted 27 October 2014 - 11:55

From my point of view, they are fake but I don't consider me as an expert. It could be the work of a jeweller but I doubt.

The finitions are low, and I don't recognize the model. The second nib is like a simple "iridium point", and in this case not a MB.

I wait the opinion of the experts like Maxpens, Tom Westerlich or Michael R.

 

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Edited by yus2001fr, 27 October 2014 - 11:56.

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#3 pen69

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Posted 27 October 2014 - 13:15

I put nibs



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Posted 27 October 2014 - 14:12

Welcome home.  Pull up a stump and set a spell.

 

Unfortunately I too think what you have are Eastern Europe made fakes and not even very rare ones.


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Posted 27 October 2014 - 15:00

As someone who had relatives murdered in the Holocaust, I wouldn't even touch this thing.



#6 Kaweco

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Posted 27 October 2014 - 15:12



quote:................<<I have many pens>>............./quote

 

SO IT WOULD BE VERY GOOD FOR YOU TO SHOW ONE OR ANOTHER OF YOUR OTHER PENS AND NOT THIS UGLY TRASH!!!

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Edited by Kaweco, 27 October 2014 - 15:14.


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Posted 27 October 2014 - 15:25

As someone who had relatives murdered in the Holocaust, I wouldn't even touch this thing.

 

 

I also have very close relative who perished in concentration camps.  My dad escape by sheer luck.  

 

But I do find the pen rather intriguing.. .Would I buy it? .. NO... but I would certainly like to know its history.

 

If it is a fake.. it seems a very old fake to me...   

 

 

 

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Posted 27 October 2014 - 15:28

Well if this is a troll, you got to admit they went to a lot of effort to be annoying.  But as far as fit and finish I don't know?



#9 Biber

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Posted 27 October 2014 - 15:32

Seems to me something like this has been presented here before and the consensus was that it was purely a fantasy pen and not authentic to MB. I could be wrong in my recollection though.


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Posted 27 October 2014 - 15:49

Seems like a total fake.



#11 aawhite

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Posted 28 October 2014 - 10:48

I read once (in this forum) that the Nazis did not allow their logos to be used for such purposes. I looked into this claim and it appears to had merit.

 

The MB looks like a fake.


Edited by aawhite, 28 October 2014 - 11:21.

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#12 Wahl

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Posted 28 October 2014 - 19:47

A friend of mine who collects historical pens owns the FP used by Von Ribbentrop who was the Foreing Minister of the III Reich (Yes, it is thorougly documented).

 

It is a plain black Montblanc without any kind of symbols.



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Posted 29 October 2014 - 00:15

A friend of mine who collects historical pens owns the FP used by Von Ribbentrop who was the Foreing Minister of the III Reich (Yes, it is thorougly documented).

 

It is a plain black Montblanc without any kind of symbols.

 

If it were me with that pen I would take a blow-torch to it.


  

                                    


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Posted 29 October 2014 - 00:25

As someone who had relatives murdered in the Holocaust, I wouldn't even touch this thing.

I second that. Yuck!

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Posted 29 October 2014 - 00:34

I agree that are fakes, but I do not believe they are beyond twenty years old. Likely produced in the 90s. Design more reminiscent of late 80s than 30s and material incorrect as well.

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Posted 29 October 2014 - 01:05

http://www.maxpens.d...tagefakes02.htm



#17 Oranges and Apples

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Posted 29 October 2014 - 01:06

http://www.fountainp...-pen-or-a-fake/



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Posted 29 October 2014 - 01:08

An quick Google search is all it takes.  Due diligence is what it is called, I believe.



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Posted 29 October 2014 - 02:35

Pen69,

Your pens are documented several places as fakes. 

 

Sorry.


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Posted 29 October 2014 - 10:17

Sorry, but I do have to say they must be fakes. 







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