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#1 23Larsen

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Posted 08 October 2014 - 21:24

A month or so ago i got myself my first Esterbrook. The odd thing about it was that it came with a gold nib. As far as i understand this is not an original Esterbrook nib, so someone swapped it at some point. I thought i would post it here and se if someone recognized the nib. 

I like this nib a lot. It offers some flex and does it while remaining smooth, and i don´t quite know how to explain it. It just feels right for me and offers more control over my handwriting than i´m normally used to.

 

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I only have my iPhone available for taking photos so this was the best i could get of the nib. Below the symbol it says 14K, and below that again it says 585.

 

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The line is finer than any pen i have so i´ll assume it is an XF. Picture show some railroading but it does so mostly when i try to go to fast. 

 

If you recognize the nib, and perhaps have one yourself you might give it a go on an Esterbrook :)



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#2 northlodge

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Posted 08 October 2014 - 21:31

That does not look like a Estie original to me.

 

It is certainly possible to get Gold coloured nibs the Estie 3314 being one such example, which goldtone Burnham nibs will also fit.

It is also possible to find 14ct Esterbrook nibs on some English made models, which from my experience are good writers



#3 mtbradley

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Posted 08 October 2014 - 23:38

I can't help with ID, but the 585 is the parts per thousand of gold - equivalent to about 14kt.

 

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Posted 09 October 2014 - 13:51

Nope, not original, but surely a neat looking nib!  English 3312/3314 nibs were gold plated, but there were some 14ct Relief renew-points made in England for their double jewel Relief pens.  If you like it and it works, it looks like a lot of fun, so why not enjoy it?  :)


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Posted 09 October 2014 - 18:10

That's a really interesting nib, and it has the kind of flex a lot of people yearn for.  Very nice.


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Posted 09 October 2014 - 18:32

I have an Elect-a-Point 120 Flex on one of my Esties, and I believe it's a gold nib.  It's a nice fine line, and is really smooth across paper.



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Posted 11 October 2014 - 16:06

I have an Elect-a-Point 120 Flex on one of my Esties, and I believe it's a gold nib.  It's a nice fine line, and is really smooth across paper.

 

Nice.  That's probably a nicer flex nib, easier to flex than the Esterbrook steel flexible nibs like the 9048, etc. 


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Posted 11 October 2014 - 16:35

t would look better on a brown J but nevertheless,  keep  writing since it is a so very a good nib.  



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Posted 12 October 2014 - 09:27

I was hoping this nib was well known or at least somewhat familiar to someone. That would have made my post at least a little helpful for those who had the same nib and could try it out on their own Esterbrook. 

 

Anyways, thanks for the replies guys! :)  

Clearly i´m very pleased with my first Esterbrook and its not just the nib, the size of the is also very much to my liking. I hope i come across a blue one at some point, i like that color far more than the one i have currently. I gather that kind of thinking can be dangerous when dealing with Esterbrooks...

 

With regards to what i said about the nib in the original post i think i can explain what i like about it a little better. It is very responsive. Meaning that when i flex it, and then let go of the pressure, its snaps back to its original shape and line really quickly.  I´m still a novice with fountain pens so i was not aware of the difference that makes when your writing. I know my handwriting is not all that, but the writing sample i posted is the nicest i have ever written. Much of it is due to the nib. 



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Posted 23 February 2019 - 10:06

Hmm, I'm not sure what that nib is but I think I might try this at some point with a gold nib I have lying around.

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Posted 23 February 2019 - 11:21

It is a German nib, quite well known, but not my area of expertise



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Posted 23 February 2019 - 11:53

It is a German nib, quite well known, but not my area of expertise


I believe it is a Degussa nib.

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Posted 24 February 2019 - 21:38

Hmm, I'm not sure what that nib is but I think I might try this at some point with a gold nib I have lying around.

I have two Esties with gold nibs. One pen I bought on ebay and was pleasantly surprised when it arrived with an Eversharp Skyline nib in the Renew Point assembly instead of a regular steel Estie nib. The other I made myself after seeing that first one. I happened to have a Warranted 14K nib of the right size and fitted it into a Renew Point feed/collar that had a ruined nib.Here's a link to a post on my blog about those two, including how I made the second one:

 

https://cigarboxpens...nkenpen-iii-½/



#14 Scrawler

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Posted 25 February 2019 - 22:13

There was a group of us experimenting with nibs and feeds for a while, producing various Estie Franken pens. The Eversharp Skyline worked well. Here is a J model I put together as a gift for my daughter.

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Posted 25 February 2019 - 22:19

The Conklin Toledo #2 from the 1920s is a smaller nib but can be made to fit and is a nice way to get a bit of vintage softness to a pen that you use frequently.

 

 

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#16 Scrawler

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Posted 25 February 2019 - 22:34

I have two Esties with gold nibs. One pen I bought on ebay and was pleasantly surprised when it arrived with an Eversharp Skyline nib in the Renew Point assembly instead of a regular steel Estie nib. The other I made myself after seeing that first one. I happened to have a Warranted 14K nib of the right size and fitted it into a Renew Point feed/collar that had a ruined nib.Here's a link to a post on my blog about those two, including how I made the second one:

 

https://cigarboxpens...nkenpen-iii-½/

There is a little more to it than you mention in your instructions for changing the nib. You got lucky. There are 3 different collar assembly types depending on the year of manufacture. Some are not held in by friction, or by the crimps, but by a pin that is driven through the collar. If you try to knock the feed out without first first driving the pin feed out, you will have a broken collar. If you are looking for collars to experiment with, try to find Venus ones. They are made of a different type of plastic, which is more pliable and more forgiving. I have succeeded in putting a huge #14 size nib in one using a Venus collar.



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Posted 25 February 2019 - 23:23

There was a group of us experimenting with nibs and feeds for a while, producing various Estie Franken pens. The Eversharp Skyline worked well. Here is a J model I put together as a gift for my daughter.

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The white jewel on the cap is interesting.


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Posted 26 February 2019 - 00:36

The white jewel on the cap is interesting.

It is an opal which was cut and mounted as the cap jewel.








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