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Please Help My Identify This Duofold

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#1 Varekai

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Posted 04 October 2014 - 05:05

Hello all, I won this pen off an ebay auction for $42 a few days ago. It was listed as a Parker 51 vacumatic. After receiving the pen it says Parker Duofold 1 on it. I tried cross referencing it on sites like Richardspens to try to find out aproximate year that mine was made, but I'm having a hard time finding one just like this. I've found ones similar but they usually have a solid gold band on the cap not the two gold lines, or some minor difference. As far as I can tell it doesn't fill with ink, guessing bladder needs to be replaced. It was described in the auction as not tested with ink so I wasn't surprised. Can't for the life of me get the nib housing to unscrew from the body of the pen, actually twisted the nib around a bit but it went right back into place, no damage. Only other thing is it's missing it's clip but I found some on ebay for around $25 so I'll pick one up. Not sure how to attach it tho since the end of the cap has a small plastic threat like something should screw in and all the replacement ones I see look like just a round circle, so I guess I'd have to glue it on or find that cap that screws on. Anyhow any advice or help would be greatly appreciated, thanks.

 

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Posted 04 October 2014 - 06:21

1940- maybe 41 Striped Duofold Junior.

Do you see a "0" or "1" Datecode?

Edited by Apothic, 04 October 2014 - 06:23.

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Posted 04 October 2014 - 06:37

It is a 1, Parker Duofold 1



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Posted 04 October 2014 - 06:45

Also thank you for the response. 



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Posted 04 October 2014 - 13:47

Striped Duofold, not 51. Have a look here: http://richardspens....duo_profile.htm



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Posted 04 October 2014 - 14:37

Out of curiosity, why are you trying to get the nib housing to unscrew from the body of the pen?

 

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#7 Varekai

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Posted 04 October 2014 - 14:46

Thank you, hopefully this pen is still good.
Looking at a drawing of the assembly of the pen I thought you had to take out the nib to get to the bladder

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Posted 04 October 2014 - 15:57

Varekai, It would be best not to try to open this pen. It is a Vacumatic and it needs to be opened at the other end--where the filler unit is located. And that takes a special tool. Also, there is no bladder/sac, so to speak: it has a diaphragm. As for the clip, it is attached with a "jewel," so you will need one of those, too.  You should probably send it off to be repaired professionally if you plan to use it.

Danny Fudge does great work, can often source parts, and does not have a long waiting period.

 

Good luck,

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Posted 04 October 2014 - 16:57

Judging from the pictures, I'm thinking that your's is a Sub-Deb. size, which was the ladies model.

 

And yes, it is a "Striped" Duofold that is Vacumatic filled. The red color is really nice.

 

Also, the "1" on the barrel is the date code for 1941. It might also have a series of dots which stand for the quarter of the year that the pen was produced: three dots=1st, two dots=2nd, one dot=3rd and no dots=4th quarter.


Edited by Florida Blue, 04 October 2014 - 17:02.

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Posted 04 October 2014 - 19:28

Also thank you for the response. 

 

No problem.


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Posted 05 October 2014 - 01:57

Varekai, It would be best not to try to open this pen. It is a Vacumatic and it needs to be opened at the other end--where the filler unit is located. And that takes a special tool. Also, there is no bladder/sac, so to speak: it has a diaphragm. As for the clip, it is attached with a "jewel," so you will need one of those, too.  You should probably send it off to be repaired professionally if you plan to use it.
Danny Fudge does great work, can often source parts, and does not have a long waiting period.
 
Good luck,
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Thank you. Do you think this pen would be worth getting fixed considering it's not what I thought it was?

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Posted 05 October 2014 - 04:27

The section is threaded into the barrel and is most likely shellac'd in place. A little heat would loosen that up. If you have section pliers, then unscrew it with those. If you don't then I wouldn't get any crazy ideas.

 

Is there a black jewel on the cop of the cap? Looks like something might be up there according to your pictures. I have a clip. PM me if you want it.


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Posted 05 October 2014 - 05:20

yes it is, for not too much. i second the suggestion to send it to danny fudge (www.thewritepen.net). i'd strongly advise you against doing anything further on the pen yourself, as it's easy to damage if not properly opened, and then at that point it might not be worth fixing ;)

 

Thank you. Do you think this pen would be worth getting fixed considering it's not what I thought it was?


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Posted 05 October 2014 - 15:18

The filler is called a speedline filler, they only made them for a couple years. Your pen appears to have the wrong end cap, they had a jewel in them during the years the speedlines were produced.



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Posted 05 October 2014 - 19:54

yes it is, for not too much. i second the suggestion to send it to danny fudge (www.thewritepen.net). i'd strongly advise you against doing anything further on the pen yourself, as it's easy to damage if not properly opened, and then at that point it might not be worth fixing ;)


Thank you, I will contact him. I haven't messed with the pen again, actually haven't been home been away this weekend.

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Posted 05 October 2014 - 22:00

The filler is called a speedline filler, they only made them for a couple years. Your pen appears to have the wrong end cap, they had a jewel in them during the years the speedlines were produced.

 

The blind cap is correct for a model like that. Only the 1941 Senior Duovac had a jewel, the rest were singled jeweled with a pointed blind cap. 


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Posted 05 October 2014 - 22:07

The filler is called a speedline filler, they only made them for a couple years. Your pen appears to have the wrong end cap, they had a jewel in them during the years the speedlines were produced.

 

I disagree. In my opinion, the Senior and Ingenue would have sported the bottom blind cap jewel; until 1942. He's got a Junior, which wouldn't have had a Blue Diamond on the clip or a jeweled blind cap.


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Posted 05 October 2014 - 22:13

Apothic, why are you advising the OP to remove the section? 

 

 

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Posted 05 October 2014 - 22:53

Apothic, why are you advising the OP to remove the section? 
 
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Not advising. But if he must I'd rather him know that it's threaded and likely shellac'd.
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Posted 16 October 2014 - 11:46

Did you receive the clip I sent?
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