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What Is Wrong With My Noodler's Blacks?

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#1 Adrian Mastronardi

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Posted 29 September 2014 - 19:08

Hi,

I read many reviews about Noodler's black saying that it is one of the darkness/blackest ink in the market. I don't know if my bottles have a problem, but I'm obtaining a very light black.

 

I'm attaching a test comparing two bottles of Noodler's, Parker Quink and Montblanc. As you can see Parker is 10 times stronger that Noodler's. The text is written with a Pelikan M200 using the noodler's black bottle 1.

 

Any idea what could be happening here?

 

Kind regards,

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#2 Adrian Mastronardi

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Posted 29 September 2014 - 19:13

Forgot to mention that 1st column is 1 pass, 2nd is 2 passes and 3rd is 3 passes.



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Posted 29 September 2014 - 19:14

Did you invert the bottle a few times before filling your pen?  Some of the highly saturated inks will precipitate dye components and you need to agitate the bottle before filling.  My Noodler's black is darker than the Quink in your picture.


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#4 Adrian Mastronardi

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Posted 29 September 2014 - 19:32

Big difference after a good shake. Now it looks the backlness I was expecting from the very beginning. :yikes:

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Posted 29 September 2014 - 19:50

Even after a good shake I still find Platinum Carbon Black much darker than Noodler's Black.


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Posted 29 September 2014 - 20:02

I shake most of my inks before filling, but especially the Noodler's.  Highly saturated inks tends to have the dye settle out easier.


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Posted 29 September 2014 - 20:25

I'll need someone's input on how scientifically accurate this is, but cooler colours tend to look darker than warm ones, regardless of actuall "darkness." I added a bit of Kung Te Cheng to Noodler's X-Feather and it does indeed look darker than before.

(source: my hair colourist who dyed my hair a "cool dirty blonde" which looked way darker than it actually was)

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Posted 29 September 2014 - 20:48

It has happened to me with other Inks. Now I always shake the bottle ;)

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Posted 29 September 2014 - 21:02

Even after a good shake I still find Platinum Carbon Black much darker than Noodler's Black.


I agree. I like and use both of these inks, but I favor Noodler's Black, cos it writes on the most variety of papers without feathering or bleeding through.

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Posted 29 September 2014 - 21:02

hmmm

OK, you shook the bottle and got the dark ink into the pen.

- But will the dye settle out of the ink in the pen?

- Will inverting the pen from nib up storage to nib down writing be enough agitation to mix the dye?

- This might be a problem for using this ink in a desk pen that is ALWAYS nib down.  The dye would settle out and down into the feed where it won't mix with the ink in the main ink reservoir.


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Posted 29 September 2014 - 21:03

:P The first attempt looks like faded Noodler's Polar Black.

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Posted 30 September 2014 - 02:23

I agree. I like and use both of these inks, but I favor Noodler's Black, cos it writes on the most variety of papers without feathering or bleeding through.


Platinum Carbon Black doesn't feather at all for me. Even on glorified toilet paper.

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Posted 30 September 2014 - 02:55

I really like Noodler's appeal and "raison d'être", but precipitation doesn't sound good to me.



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Posted 30 September 2014 - 04:32

I've had Noodler's Black separate in pens, but only after quite a long time (several months) of disuse.

 

I've never found anything particularly interesting in Platinum Carbon Black.  Kiwaguro and Noodler's have consistently outperformed it for me.  Perhaps I got bum samples.


Edited by XiaoMG, 30 September 2014 - 04:33.

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Posted 30 September 2014 - 14:55

I too shake my ink before filling - I guess out of habit and thinking of it like a can of paint.

 

Love the Noodler's black though.  I've tried a dozen different inks now and always keep coming back to it.



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Posted 30 September 2014 - 15:23

I always shake my inks prior to filling my pens.  Not sure why I got in the habit, but well, I guess it's a good plan!

 

In the case of Noodler's Black, I've never had a problem with it settling in my pens.  However, my pens generally ride around in a pocket so they are constantly being moved around.  In the case of a desk pen, I'm not sure if settling would occur or not.


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Posted 01 October 2014 - 12:41

I also shake all my ink *except iron gall inks* before filling a pen. I read on a post here that shaking iron gall inks could lead to problems...

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Posted 12 October 2014 - 01:14

I've found that it tends to be a dark grey on one of my cheaper feed pens with a creeper flex nib attached whenever writing without flex, and same with a medium nib.

On the converse, with a dip pen nib, it is so saturated that there is an oil like substances that feathers out on Rhodia - the black ink doesn't feather. I'm not sure if the feint oil is from the nib or the lubricating agents in the ink. I would think its just because of the high saturation in one spot.

I haven't used NB for a while, as I left it at home and have just Edelstein Topaz with me at college. It seems with FP blacks its hard to get a consistently dark and detailed black with fine or extra fine nibs, while also getting water resistance. I just use Topaz for notes despite the lack of resistance as the shading is beautiful and it has a subtle Violette sheen. However, if my hand is just slightly wet, it will smear... Times like those make me wish I had NB with me.





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