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#1 S-K

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Posted 31 August 2014 - 10:09

J HERBIN’S LIE DE THE

 

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J HERBIN’S LIE DE THE. Bottled ink. Bought from Pen’s Avenue. 30 ml 695 Rs. A good source for imported inks in India. No affiliations, happy customer.

 

The review goes like this.

 

 The bottle is simple. Square base, low height. Stable bottom.  Less chance to get spill over. Convenient on busy tables. The slot for keeping a pen,a nice thought.

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INTRODUCTION

Well, I find that all J Herbin’s inks are based on a theme. Here the theme ( I believe) is coffee mug. There are some similarities between coffee and this ink – both are ADDICTIVE!. 

Addictive by COLOR, addictive by SHADING.

 

COLOR

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Probably the nicest brown I have seen.  I am not saying that Ancient Copper is bad.But unlike Ancient Copper, there is no crusting seen on nibs, so this naturally becomes my favorite brown.

 

SHADING

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See the beautiful shading especially with broader nibs.

 

COLOR ANALYSIS

 

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This is the swab to analyse.

 

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 The color is an Orange on darker side. Consists of more Red, least Blue and Green in between.

 

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A simple chromatography shows that ink is made of 3  dye components, one Black, one Orange and probably one Yellow also.

 

 Diluted with water

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From Left to Right

Lesser concentration of ink shows yellowish shade, as the concentration increases it becomes more darkish and coffee like.

 

COLOR ON PAPER

 

 

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FINE NIB ( Notice shading)

 

 

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MEDIUM NIB.

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BROAD NIB.

 

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PROPERTIES IN PEN.

This is a reasonably saturated ink having good lubricating properties. The flow may be some where in between that of well flowing inks and moderately flowing inks.

Compared to Chelpark Crimson Violet which itself is a well flowing but lesser saturated ink.

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Same paper, same  italic nib, same pen – I find the JH- LDT is a tad thinner on paper. But easy on hands, though saturated, it’s more lubricated.

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Camlin Trinity, Fine nib.

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Lamy safari, medium nib.

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KIM, Medium CI nib.

 

No staining on the White Lamy I am using, No nib creeps. Worked well with a variety of  Indian eyedroppers, Pilot Capless, Platinum balance, Heros, Pelikan m 200. No issue happened in a single pen.

 

 

PROPERTIES ON PAPER

SHADING

PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT PROPERTY OF THIS INK. Shades beautifully on papers.

 

DRYING

Reasonably fast drying. No complaints here.

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FEATHERING

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No practical feathering. This is a magnified image. Ink has with stood many cheap A4 and cheaper papers.

 

BLEEDING

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I have to say that bleeding is seen to an extend ( called as ghosting?) in even Jk Excel Bond paper, which is supposed to be a good paper. This may be the only real negative property  associated with this ink.

 

WATER RESISTANCE

 

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Sample shown under flowing water for 10 seconds with in one hour after writing.

 

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Sample just wetted with one drop of water with in one hour after writing.

 

The ink can not be called as water resistant. Though all components are not washed off, especially the dark dye component.

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SK.


Edited by S-K, 31 August 2014 - 10:31.

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Posted 31 August 2014 - 10:11

AMAZING review :notworthy1: . Thank you for doing such a comprehensive review of interesting ink.



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Posted 31 August 2014 - 10:24

Stunning review.

I've used this ink for years and you've shown it exactly as it is.

 

 

More, more, more . . . !


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Posted 31 August 2014 - 10:29

Thanks Viswamitra, Thanks Tas..


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Posted 31 August 2014 - 12:32

Stunning review ! Every aspect covered in full :)

 

The coffee relevance is, in my opinion, more likely to be tea. Translated as it is written on the bottle (lie de the') this is 'dregs of tea' which would make sense of the tea pot on the bottle and the lovely colour.

 

Keep these type of reviews coming, I will watch for them :)


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Posted 31 August 2014 - 12:33

Wonderful review! I really like that ink!



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Posted 31 August 2014 - 13:06

This is one of my favourite browns, great review S-K :)
UK-based pen fan. I love beautiful ink bottles, sealing wax, scented inks, and sending mail art. Also, thanks to a wonderful custom-ground nib by forum member Bardiir, I'm currently attempting calligraphy after years of not being able to do so due to having an odd pen-grip :D

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Posted 31 August 2014 - 13:59

Thanks Pen Nut, Thanks betweenthelens, thanks Floreat...

 

Pen Nut,   You are correct. It must be Tea. Some how " Coffee" stuck on me.

Its still addicting...


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Posted 31 August 2014 - 16:47

Great review, I need to try this sometime.

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Posted 31 August 2014 - 18:15

Great idea with the RGB mapping and the chromatography.  Did you need special equipment to do that with the gauze?  Most fascinating!

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Posted 31 August 2014 - 18:24

Thanks
Very informative and great way of presentation

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Posted 31 August 2014 - 22:27

I got a bottle of this ink recently. You just made me want to load it up in a pen right now! :D Great review!


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Posted 31 August 2014 - 23:02

Lovely ink and lovely, thorough review! Looking forward to seeing more from you.



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Posted 01 September 2014 - 03:25

Thanks Uncle Red, thanks kkshadow,Thanks Arran.Thanks Sujicorp and thanks tiny snail...

Kkshadow,

The procedure is simple. Make a ribbon gauze. Put a drop of ink around 10-15 cms from one end and allow to dry- atleast one hour. Take a glass of water and put that end in to it and other end stick on to wall or some thing to make it vertical. Check after one or two hours.

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Posted 02 September 2014 - 12:11

Brilliant Review



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Posted 02 September 2014 - 13:08

Thank you for the wonderful review. I am quite interested in the chromatography, can you briefly tell me how to do it?



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Posted 02 September 2014 - 14:05

Excellent review.

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Posted 02 September 2014 - 14:17

Thank you for the wonderful review. I am quite interested in the chromatography, can you briefly tell me how to do it?

 

You can perform a decent chromatography even with a white paper towel.


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Posted 03 September 2014 - 01:09

Thanks vj2k, thanks dragos mocanu,thanks mallymal,thanks Davis..

Davis,

Really we should do with a filter paper or tissue paper. But the tissue i bought was not

really working well- so i done with a gauze, the basic is apply ink on one side of the strip/ribbon gauze

, allow to dry- make it vertcal either by hanging or by sticking and keep one end immersed in water.

Usually 1 or two hours are enough. Make sure that the ink spot do not directly be immersed in water.

Do ..do.. It really works. And do not expect that from every ink we get two or more colors. The basic inks

like Turquoise blue, Royal Blue etc are made of single dyes only.

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Posted 03 September 2014 - 23:04

Wow, what a review! Lie de Thé has long been a favourite of mine, so much so I'd get the 100ml bottle in a heartbeat.


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