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#1 Daniel32

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Posted 16 June 2014 - 10:32

So in 2002 or 2003 I was browsing eBay and saw a nice blue pen, and bought it.  It came in a fairly nice skin-effect case that said Parker on it.  I knew someone with Parker as their surname and they liked the case, so they took it.

 

I've used the pen as a regular pen for a few years, in my pocket or bag as a normal pen.

 

It wasn't until looking on eBay again recently I saw how crazy expensive this pen should be - in good condition they seem to be going for 25x what I paid for it!  I'm not particularly attached to it, in fact I don't even use it as often as I used to - I happened upon an Orange Lamy Safari pen which I preferred, and was upset when that pen stopped 'clicking' inside its cap.

 

That orange pen was only about £10 so I thought I'd get another, and was surprised to see that it was a limited edition pen too, so for the last couple of years I've been using a red Safari pen, missing the orange one and keeping the blue Parker pen on my desk - not for any particular reason than I prefer writing with the Lamy pen so that goes with me and the blue one gets left.

 

The blue one has just broken though - the screw thread came off.  Presumably I overtightened it, though I can't imagine I tightened it any more than anyone else would.

 

What are my options?  If the pen is an expensive one, presumably so would be its repair.  I don't fancy putting superglue on it, not least because the screw thread would get stuck.

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Posted 16 June 2014 - 10:54

heh... well I never knew that Parker 51 could accept cartrdige converter... you can however find a Hero pen and use the parker 51 nib assembly who knows it could work



#3 The Blue Knight

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Posted 16 June 2014 - 11:02

Why were you using a lamy cartridge in it? You know Parker makes there own propitiatory cartridges. The break is probably due to incompatible of cartridges.causing damage to your pen.



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Posted 16 June 2014 - 11:24

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How many people does it take to comment on a question on FPN? One to give advice and make suggestions. Another one to repeat everything that the first poster has said. Fourteen to share their own experiences of their pens and comment on how the original advice was flawed. Seven who just want to increase their post count. One to say that they have no regrets about doing anything and people should follow their example. Another to say that if there is anything wrong with the pen it is just down to using Diamine Shimmer ink. Six to argue over whether its a worth doing anything with it and the OP should just throw it away and buy their Parker 51. One to ignore who uses 'I' four times in each post. Another six to condemn all of the above as being  stupid and anyway they would rather be on FP Geeks. One to say that the pen is cheaper where they live. Five people to post pics of their own pens. One to say that if the OP had Faith then the pen would work - and gets banned very quickly. Finally, one to close down the thread because it has lost its way.
 


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Posted 16 June 2014 - 11:25

heh... well I never knew that Parker 51 could accept cartrdige converter... 

Apparently it can't!

 

Why were you using a lamy cartridge in it? You know Parker makes there own propitiatory cartridges. The break is probably due to incompatible of cartridges.causing damage to your pen.

Ink cartridges looked like ink cartridges to me, Lamy if anything about 3-4mm shorter than Parker, I liked the Lamy green and purple colours, so perhaps the answer is 'ignorance'.



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Posted 16 June 2014 - 14:13

heh... well I never knew that Parker 51 could accept cartrdige converter... you can however find a Hero pen and use the parker 51 nib assembly who knows it could work

 

Not only Was there a C/C version of the original 51, This SE pen was C/C.

 

The nipple on the Lamy should match the Parker cart nipple EXACTLY for them to be compatible with each other.

 

Daniel. Be sure and carefully save those pieces.  A pro can fix that I think.  Assuming they can though, I would cease using screwing the barrel on as the method of puncturing the carts and PRE puncture them instead.  That method of installing the cart puts A LOT of stress on the threads.

 

There were problems with the barrels cracking with the SE.  Parker is out of parts for it. IF you can find a new barrel somewhere it'll likely be > $80 US.

 

Contact FPNer Farmboy, he has the skills necessary to fix this.

 

Bruce in Ocala, Fl 



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Posted 16 June 2014 - 14:30

Thanks folks - I've posted the pen to someone who sent me a message.

 

How disappointing it must've been for people buying the Parker 51 as a special pen and having poor quality plastic break on them.

 

 

I would cease using screwing the barrel on as the method of puncturing the carts and PRE puncture them instead.  That method of installing the cart puts A LOT of stress on the threads.

 

I think you mean that I shouldn't put a cartridge into a pen and then screw the barrel back on to puncture the cartridge?  I never even thought of doing that! Bizarre, I've always put a cartridge into a pen and kept pushing until I felt it 'click' into place... never occurred to me that screwing the barrel down might be the 'right' way of doing it!



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Posted 16 June 2014 - 14:46

He means that you should use a Parker cartridge in the Parker pen.  A Lamy cartridge is intended for use in a Lamy pen - not Parker.

 

He also means that you should NOT use screwing the barrel onto the nib unit as a way of piercing the cartridge as doing that puts a lot of stress on the pen - press the cartridge into the nib unit, then screw the barrel on.

 

You need a new section/writing unit.  The threads are stuck in the barrel, and I don't know that the pieces can be solvent welded onto the pen. The solvents don't always react as desired if at all with the modern plastics. 

 

Parker did make some of the original Parker 51s as cartridge/converter pens.  This one is the Special Edition 51, and had problems with barrels cracking from the start.  It seems that Parker tried to cash in on the popularity of the original 51 pen without getting the idea that it also needed to have the same quality and durability.  They weren't in production very long.


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Posted 16 June 2014 - 17:19

The threads of the sections and the barrels crack quite often.

I do not have bleu parts available but I do have new black barrels.


You can try to contact parker or glue the threads back on.
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Posted 06 February 2018 - 00:28

Hai Daniel,

I have just joined in this network & I am a Parker 51 collector. I have all Parker 51 editions except midnight blue & plum colours because they are very rare to buy also very expensive.

This Parker 51 SE 2002 is not good like MK1 or MK2 but much better than MK3 & Argentina versions.

But your pen worth around £800 if it NOS.

This edition pen barrels were thin wall in early versions but later they found the fault & produced thick wall barrels to solve this problem.

 

                                                                                                

 

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And also they have sent to all retailers free of charge but the retailer is selling this barrel so far I found cheaper for $50 plus shipping fee $10 if its for UK.

It is https://www.andersonpens.com/.

You can order it in this link below

http://blog.anderson...-barrels-found/

 

Please hurry while the stock lasts well worth it for your pen..

I think this information will solve your problem if you still left your pen in the drawer.

 

​Thank you

Sunny

 



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Posted 06 February 2018 - 01:44

Note that this thread is nearly 4 years old. 


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#12 Daniel32

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Posted 06 February 2018 - 11:18

Well if my pen was really worth $800, it was someone's lucky day: I don't remember who, but I posted the pen to someone who replied to this original thread years ago.  They said they couldn't fix it, I said never mind, keep it - it's no good to me.

 

I didn't know it was a "special" pen (or a poor quality copy of a special pen) when I bought it on eBay, and didn't know it was worth anything much when I sent it for repair, so I don't think I lost out.

 

I have a bunch of Lamy fountain pens that I continue to use on a daily basis, and it probably horrifies real pen enthusiasts that I buy pens because I like their colour or the style of the clip etc.  They're just pens to me  :unsure:  :)



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Posted 06 February 2018 - 18:43

I have the blue model also and the body remained intact but the section cracked, liner instead of around the section. The Kennedy's tried to fix it but could never get the crack to seal. To me the only really special part of this pen was the sterling empire type cap. I gave up on the pen but have been using the cap on one of my older P51s, it looks great.


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Posted 06 February 2018 - 19:09

. I gave up on the pen but have been using the cap on one of my older P51s, it looks great.

 

You're not the only one. 


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