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Soennecken 111 Extra Sans Click Mechanism?


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#1 Keyless Works

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Posted 14 June 2014 - 13:03

Does anyone know if Soennecken made the 111 Extra without the click mechanism? I was told the earlier ones did not have them but I wonder if when the mechanism breaks it could be misconstrued as a standard piston filler.

Also the Soenneckens I have owned from the 50s are brightly colored with beautiful patterns and I wonder how much less an all black 111 extra would be worth.

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Posted 14 June 2014 - 13:38

I believe that the Soennecken 1 Extra, an export model of the 111, was a straight piston filler......

 

I have a 420 whose click mechanism is disabled - now a pure piston filler....

 

as to value of the black? maybe less so - but the 111 extra is so uncommon that Id guess the difference between the two would be small.....


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Posted 14 June 2014 - 13:42

Were there any other differences between the Soennecken 1 Extra and the 111? 



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Posted 14 June 2014 - 13:50

where's mr dayne nix when you need him???? :)

 

he has a Soennecken 1 extra on his website, for sale. he'd definitely know:)

 

http://dayneswritesi...alian-pens.html

 

also check out pencluster.....says without click mechanism, and from what i can piece together from google translation, an ink window??

 

http://pencluster.co...-1-extra-black/


Edited by playtime, 14 June 2014 - 13:56.

"Writing is 1/3 nib width & flex, 1/3 paper and 1/3 ink. In that order."Bo Bo Olson

"No one needs to rotate a pen while using an oblique, in fact, that's against the whole concept of an oblique, which is to give you shading without any special effort."Professor Propas, 24 December 2010

 

"IMHO, the only advantage of the 149 is increased girth if needed, increased gold if wanted and increased prestige if perceived.  I have three, but hardly ever use them.  After all, they hold the same amount of ink as a 146."FredRydr, 12 March 2015

 

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Posted 14 June 2014 - 14:25

Thank you playtime!



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Posted 24 June 2014 - 21:14

Saw some pirate wanting €1,000 for a black herringbone.

 

Sigh my Soennecken 111 Extra's money burnt a hole in my pocket after three months of looking...but for one in herringbone in color and at half that price....In I'd seen lizards going for €350.

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Edited by Bo Bo Olson, 24 June 2014 - 23:24.

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Posted 24 June 2014 - 22:55

I would pay 350€ for a lizard one in nice condition.  Where are you seeing them at that price?  I usually 111 Extras range from a low of $600 USD all the way up $1,200 USD.



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Posted 24 June 2014 - 23:23

German Ebay....not often for the lizard. But did turn down a bid on one, three months ago, in I had a Herringbone 111 Extra as grail pen. Was even picky to which two colors I'd want to bid on. Wanted the click. Wann Shoen, dann shoen....if so, big time.

 

None showed up for 3 months, I'd thought of a €500 bid.

 

Didn't go looking again, in Murfey would show me one, now the money was spent.


Edited by Bo Bo Olson, 24 June 2014 - 23:25.

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