quote:.........Are you saying the two pens are not Der Stern Halters made by Osmia because of the location of Stern?./quote
Yes. We try to build up a complete register of all German fountainpens, producers and trade marks. This is not a comfortable online research because many of these informationes came from hear- and- say, from dubious souces or from private estimates. A reliable source is a document from an archieve, an adress- book or only a guarantee- paper or an advertising. But it must have a date, an adress. and a sure conjunction to a fountain pen. Each other ideas must stay behind. "Where is no name, there is noname". We never believe online sellers because they have an interest in a better profit. Normally unknown fountainpens are described older and sometimes in a relationship to a wellknown high grade trademark, what we sometimes call the "montblancisation". Stern had been found as a fountainpenmaker in Berlin and Osmia had no outsoucing from there, so Stern had been idenified and filed as a seperate trade mark. Otherwise: "Adler". They had been identified being a shop only with no production. They bought fountainpens from Osmia with their own omprint.
quote:...........And do you think it's a possibility that Parker or Parker Osmia made this pen for Konigstuhl?.../quote
I hear something like this very often but I cannot find the sense behind. Surely, even well known brands made cheap versiones of fountain pens for wholesellers and warehouses to occupie the low budged sector or to kick out competitors. But a world trade mark like Parker who sells its pens to any unknown pen maker for cheap??? There is no profit and no logic in the end...
quote: .........Look at this link and the red pen and pencil set: http://www.penboard....ist/MIDE/VIPW/1 They look so much like Parkers...../quote
The seller of these fountainpens is known as <one of the best> and he is honest enough to say it COULD (!) be a Parker- Osmia - derivate. The try to combine the hill with the location of Parker- Osmia fails IMHO, we had a "Säntis" producer here (hill in Switzerland) and an Everest- producer ( hill in Tibet). The date of producion is also a rocking suggestion: The Parker- Osmia- connection had crashed in 1930! For sure, Böhler (Osmia) was able to make this fountainpen but it also could be a Luxor, a Steinmann, a Kaweco, even a Lamy or any other of the numerous founainpen makers which came and went in these times. The box is very nice and scarce but alas it does not include any papers.
quote:.........Do the nibs give any clues?/quote
Surely! Since one decade Osmia had made their own nibs in an outstanding quality. They exclusively used a new invented tipping alloy with a high percentage of Osmium, converted the metal to a trade mark and took an advantage compared to their competitors. Also Parker made their own nibs. This does not match very well to the import nib of the Königstuhl pen.