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Wahl Gold Filled Metal Pens - Different "colors" Of Gold


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#1 Greenie

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Posted 26 April 2014 - 22:01

Can someone please describe the different gold colors used in Wahl metal pens.  I am not sure I understand the "green gold" filled vs "normal" gold filled.  Sorry for so many pictures, but every time I change the lighting a little, the pens look different.  The Dart patterns third and fourth from the left probably show the difference best.  I think all of these are just two colors. The Console pattern sometimes looks slighltly "Rosy"   The second from the right looks a bit "pale" and "yellow".  The others look "gold" and "yellow" if I had to pick words for them.

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Posted 26 April 2014 - 23:21

It is the alloy mix of gold silver and copper.  Green gold has less copper.  Rose gold more copper with yellow gold being in the middle of the range of both.

 

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Posted 27 April 2014 - 07:38

Roger  Are any of the OP's pens green gold?



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Posted 27 April 2014 - 13:05

+1 to Roger's observations.

 

Some of the early pencils have 18k gold fill or "20 year" gold fill- those tend to have a richer yellow color.  I think both had been phased out by the time Wahl started making metal pens.

 

Don't forget that at the end of the 1920s Wahl produced pencils with anodized sections of the barrel, over gold filled and sterling barrels.  If memory serves, there was a color they called "rose" that looked a lot like copper and a rich green.

 

By "OP" do you mean oversized pens?  If so, I think the answer is yes.  One of the fun things about collecting metal Wahl stuff is that different variations in patterns and materials are always turning up -  the best anyone can say is "most" or "nearly all" of the metal pens and pencils were this way or that.



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Posted 27 April 2014 - 15:38

I appreciate all the input. I love the variations as well.

 

My confusion is what to call the different colors of my gold pens.  In the first bunch of more closeup pics with 6 clipped and one ringtop, what would everyone call those gold colors?

 

Are they "plain" gold on #1,2 4,5 and "yellow" gold on the others, or are the more "yellow" ones referred to as "green"?



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Posted 27 April 2014 - 16:42

Plain gold would be yellow gold.  On your first pic 3 and 7 are green gold and I'm not sure on 6 - might be green too.  Green gold does show up best when you have a couple different gold colors in your hand.  From the Wahl catalog in 1921 it appears that green gold filled should be 18K and yellow gold filled should be 12K.  Those are Wahl Tempoints and most of you pens will likely be mid to late 20's but, I think the markings would likely be the same.  Taking a look at a bunch of Wahl ringtops I have handy a lot of them are 14K alloy yellow gold and a few are not marked to gold content.  The 18K is certainly green gold.

 

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Posted 27 April 2014 - 17:11

Thank you!  

 

I really was not understanding what seems like basic terminology. Given how many of these pens I have, I was starting to feel pretty uneducated about my collection.

 

Mine are all post-Tempoint (except the floral ring top). Gold content is not listed on any of them. Only "Gold Filled" (or "Silver filled,"  "White Gold filled" on the baby ring top, and "Sterling"

 

Off Topic - Maybe I should make a new post:

How about the different markings - Actually I am just making a new post. I hope  you have more great insight for me.



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Posted 28 April 2014 - 17:19

I have 4 gold-filled ringtops here (3 Wahl, 1 Mabie Todd) and all are a different shade. I was wondering why that was, but now I know.



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Posted 30 April 2014 - 00:29

I appreciate all the input. I love the variations as well.

 

My confusion is what to call the different colors of my gold pens.  In the first bunch of more closeup pics with 6 clipped and one ringtop, what would everyone call those gold colors?

 

Are they "plain" gold on #1,2 4,5 and "yellow" gold on the others, or are the more "yellow" ones referred to as "green"?

 

Of the pens in the first picture #5 looks like it could be "rose" to me, and #6 looks like it could be "green" gold. (I see this was answered but) Yellow gold is just what you call your standard ol' run of the mill "gold" color.

 

Nice collection by the way.


Edited by FriedIceCream, 30 April 2014 - 00:31.


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Posted 02 May 2014 - 21:45

I keep drooling when I look at all the pens together. :-)

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Posted 07 December 2014 - 00:53

"White gold", btw, is alloyed with platinum and is very expensive. It would be more silvery than yellow or green gold. It would be fun, if costly, to put together a spectrum.

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Posted 11 December 2014 - 22:25

I was lucky enough to run across a white gold filled Wahl, 0 size, with the checkerboard pattern. It is silvery, but not really silver colored. It has a 'whiteness' to it that sets it apart. Lovely ...



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Posted 12 December 2014 - 02:13

The baby ring top in the photos is also a white gold filled with checkerboard. It has a great look but really tiny. Oddly fun to write with, albeit with some hand cramping from being way to small for an adult male.

 

I wonder if any larger pens were made in white gold filled.



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Posted 12 December 2014 - 23:12

I just quickly went through all the Wahl catalogs that I was able to get from the PCA. I see the miniature checkerboard pens in several of them, but no mention of white gold filled. In fact no mention of white gold at all in any of the catalogs. Just yellow and green. That must mean that the white gold filled was produced for a limited time, or it was a specialty item (or I skimmed right over the listing - not impossible ...).



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Posted 18 December 2014 - 00:52

I think that type of gold became popular in the Fifties and Sixties.








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