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Recommend Me A Splash-Proof Dark Blue-Black Or Maybe Green-Black?

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#1 j7david

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 05:49

Hi - this is my first post here but I've been reading for a few months.

I'm looking for a dark ink for writing medical records (on a variety of paper qualities); I'd prefer something not pure black, just to be a bit different (everyone uses black ballpoints but the technical requirement is "black or other approved colour" - whatever that means!).

I've been using Sailor Sei-Boku which is fairly nice but I'd prefer something a bit nearer to black. Either blue-black, or possibly green-black. I've tried Noodlers Prime of the Commons and don't really like that colour too much.

I use a Lamy 2000 EF and I'm awaiting delivery of a Sailor Pro Gear Fine.

The ink doesn't need to be "paper under a tap" waterproof but it does need to cope with someone washing their hands near the open page in the medical notes and some water droplets accidentally falling on the page.

Any suggestions?

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 07:09

I'm a Sei-Boku man myself, but you might also give Pilot BB a try, I think that should fill your needs nicely.

 

There's sure to be some Noodlers 54 Mass fans here soon.



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Posted 28 February 2014 - 10:02

Pilot Blue Black is available from Jet Pens in the 70ml bottle, and will meet your needs with  aplomb. For a bulletproof, try Noodler's Henry Hudson Blue, a deep blue black with no trace of green on paper. It's a Fountain Pen Hospital exclusive. Only drawback is that some report it dries fairly quickly on the nib, and is best used in a pen that has an easily removed nib and feed, in case it ever dries up and needs a good cleaning. I haven't had any problems with it though. 

 

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 12:44

Yes, Noodler's 54th Massachusetts would be an excellent choice for a water resistant blue-black. See my water test results http://www.fountainp...ink-water-test/


Favorite pen/ink pairings: Franklin Christoph Model 02 W/EF nib and Noodler's El Lawrence; Sheaffer Legacy w/18k extra fine inlaid nib and Noodler's Black; Sheaffer PFM III fine w/14k inlaid nib and Noodler's Black; Lamy 2000 EF with Noodler's 54th Massachusetts; Franklin Christoph 65 Stablis w/steel Masuyama fine cursive italic and DeAtramentis Document Blue; Pineider Avatar w/fine nib and Noodler's Bad Belted Kingfisher; Karas Kustoms Fountain K w/steel extra fine nib and Platinum Pigment Blue; Pilot Decimo w/18k fine nib and Pilot Blue Black; Franklin Christoph 45 w/steel Masuyama fine cursive italic and Noodler's Zhivago; Edison Brockton EF and Noodler's El Lawrence; TWSBI ECO EF with Noodler's Bad Green Gator.


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Posted 28 February 2014 - 13:03

Hi,

 

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You might've been spoiled by the writing experience & performance profile of sei-boku, so moving to another ink could involve some compromises, especially in terms of performance on bog standard copy/print papers of less than 90g.

 

I'll suggest Pelikan 4001 Blue-Black, Sheaffer Blue-Black, Lamy Blue-Black or Sailor Blue-Black for simple aniline dye inks. The iron-gall Registrars Ink from Diamine or Ecclesiastical Stationery Supplies are also worthy of consideration, especially if the paper you're using is less than 90g and/or you need a robust ink.

 

For a side-step away from the Blue-Black to Black inks, Rohrer & Klingner Sepia is an interesting option - when it is quite dark it can appear just off-Black without misbehaving on cheap & nasty papers. 

 

Off-Topic: As sei-boku does not play well with other inks, the pen/s that were paired with sei-boku should be given a thorough cleansing before switching inks.

 

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Posted 28 February 2014 - 13:30

Hello!  :-)

 

I have had good luck with mixing Iroshizuku Shin-Ryoku with Noodler's Heart of Darkness to get a dark green that is fairly water resistant, but I can see how you might not be in the mood to buy two bottles of ink on the word of someone else that they will play well together.  Therefore, my suggestion would either be an iron-gall like Diamine Registrars or Noodler's Air Corps Blue-Black, which really appears to be more of a green black. I have pretty much zero experience with either, so take my thoughts with a grain of salt.  :-P

 

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#7 amberleadavis

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Posted 04 March 2014 - 01:35

Polar Black is fade resistant and water resistant.  However since you are in the UK, listen to Sandy1, she's an ink genius.

 

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Posted 07 March 2014 - 03:54

I have tested and approved for lab notebook use Noodler's Aircorps Blue-Black, Bad Belted Kingfisher, Walnut, and the late, lamented Tahitian Pearl and Aquamarine from the Swisher pens Noodler's exclusives. The Aquamarine is absolutely water and alcohol-proof. The others may run a bit but remain extremely legible. Of them, the Air Corps seems to run the least.



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Posted 07 March 2014 - 07:24

I really, really like Sei-Boku for a waterproof blue-black.  Have not tested it with alcohol though.  Amazingly well behaved on 90+% of papers I've tried it on.  A pox on "Universal" a pox I say.

 

Sei-Boku is slightly red shifted compared to say Tsuki-Yo, and can demonstrate a red sheen. 

 

Sei-Boku shades, unlike most "bulletproofs" from Noodler's. 

 

54th Mass is pretty danged water resistant.  I really don't like the "bulletproof" inks, but tolerate them because most of them have amazing water resistance.


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Posted 07 March 2014 - 18:38

Pelikan Blue Black.
Waterman Blue Black.
Pilot Blue Black.

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Posted 07 March 2014 - 23:14

I use Kung Te Cheng for medical records and prescriptions. It is a dark indigo-blue which dries very quickly so it won't smear. It is also resistant against water, ammonia, & bleach so once you put it on paper it isn't going anywhere.

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Posted 09 March 2014 - 23:18

I use Kung Te Cheng for medical records and prescriptions. It is a dark indigo-blue which dries very quickly so it won't smear. It is also resistant against water, ammonia, & bleach so once you put it on paper it isn't going anywhere.

 

It is the most fade proof, water proof and longest lasting ink I've ever tried.


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Posted 10 March 2014 - 04:41

KTC beats carbon blacks for fade resistance and waterproofness? 


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Posted 10 March 2014 - 05:41

Hmm... I didn't try Carbon Black at the nursery.  I guess we could try them head to head.


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Posted 10 March 2014 - 09:19

KTC beats carbon blacks for fade resistance and waterproofness? 


On paper, they are very comparable. I don't know for sure that KTC will last 1,000 years because it hasn't been tested that long, but I suspect that it will.

KTC can adhere to glossy paper and even plastic, and once dry, it will not smear.

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Posted 10 March 2014 - 13:41

Pilot Blue-Black. It's waterproof. In a wet nib, it looks almost black, and in a drier nib it is a lovely dark gray.



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Posted 11 March 2014 - 19:12

On paper, they are very comparable. I don't know for sure that KTC will last 1,000 years because it hasn't been tested that long, but I suspect that it will.

KTC can adhere to glossy paper and even plastic, and once dry, it will not smear.

 

I would suspect that based on how this ink was developed, it will survive.  If any ink is 1000 years old, it's this one.  I believe Nathan recreated ink from an ink stone that was in use around the time of Confucius.  Carbon Nano black is definitely newer.  


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Posted 12 March 2014 - 03:25

Noodler's 54th Massachusetts is a nice blue black - some say they see a green tinge. I don't. My favorite blue black is definitely the Pelikan 4001 Blue Black, but I also like DIamine Blue Black.

 

All work nicely on papers of different qualities.


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