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Have been watching a short-cap top Toledo 111T on Ebay (#121276176588). Went for $5,656. Not clear if the seller knew what he had as it was advertized simply as "ANTIQUE PELIKAN FOUNTAIN PEN.." Not sure if the buyer got a good deal or not.

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A current model Toledo 900 went for $2200+ yesterday. Above the cost one could easily buy it for.

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Have been watching a short-cap top Toledo 111T on Ebay (#121276176588). Went for $5,656. Not clear if the seller knew what he had as it was advertized simply as "ANTIQUE PELIKAN FOUNTAIN PEN.." Not sure if the buyer got a good deal or not.

 

And I am not sure / clear about what you wanted to tell us with that posting...

There are no facts, there is no truth - just a data to be manipulated...

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Have been watching a short-cap top Toledo 111T on Ebay (#121276176588). Went for $5,656. Not clear if the seller knew what he had as it was advertized simply as "ANTIQUE PELIKAN FOUNTAIN PEN.." Not sure if the buyer got a good deal or not.

 

The 111T is not a common pen and the version with a short top cap must be even more scarce. So $ 5656 is an awful lot of money but given its scarcity, this pen is a grail for an advanced collection.

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I should be able to share my impressions on that pen later this week. In the meantime I have been playing with this, a replica in silver which Ariel Kullock made for me and I picked up in LA.

 

And, yeah, the short captop has been a "grail" for some time. Now all I need is the short captop 111NT.

 

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b77/rickp/photo_zps264e4694.jpg

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I should be able to share my impressions on that pen later this week. In the meantime I have been playing with this, a replica in silver which Ariel Kullock made for me and I picked up in LA.

 

And, yeah, the short captop has been a "grail" for some time. Now all I need is the short captop 111NT.

 

Great! When referring to "advanced collection" in my comment above, I was actually thinking about yours. So it is good to know that you were able to buy this remarkable pen.

 

I look forward to see more detailed pictures of the pen.

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I should be able to share my impressions on that pen later this week. In the meantime I have been playing with this, a replica in silver which Ariel Kullock made for me and I picked up in LA.

 

And, yeah, the short captop has been a "grail" for some time. Now all I need is the short captop 111NT.

 

 

Well done Rick, I had a hunch that you might be going for it, but didn't want to say. Interesting auction to watch. Interesting to hear more about the pen.

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So, *the* pen arrived yesterday. It was pretty much as offered on eBay and the seller gets high marks for good packing and rapid shipment. It did require some restoration work before I could put it in my pocket, where it is now.

 

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b77/rickp/photo_zps95240971.jpg

 

The pen is in very good condition, as indicated in the sale, the condition commensurate with its age, and it did see use, but not abuse. In terms of condition, independent of rarity, the binde ranks third, behind my 1937 near mint 111NT, and the 1932 111T. (See the pinned Toledo thread.) But this pen is far less common than either of those. I've only heard of two, but there are undoubtedly more.

 

According to a German friend who knows more about Pelikans than I do, these pens (the 111T with short captop) were never produced in any significant numbers. He believes that they were only made to order. There were, of course short captop 100s, but fewer than the later 100N versions. So all in all it is not just a very fine pen in better than good condition, but it fills one of the three holes in my collection. I am more than pleased.

 

For now the seller's pics are the best I have, so I shall repost them along with one that I shot yesterday afternoon:

 

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b77/rickp/_36_zpscc9d2c02.jpg

 

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b77/rickp/_31_zps253d07a3.jpg

 

and this from yesterday:

 

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b77/rickp/photo4_zps18bf1dfe.jpg

 

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As with so many rare vintage pens, I wish I could see this in person. It would be great to be able to compare this piece side by side with the more common contemporay models.

 

I noticed earlier this week a number of very fine vintage Pelikan models offered for sale on Gary Lehrer's most recent catalogue, a couple of which went very quicklly, and not I would say because they were cheap.

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Rick

 

This is an outstanding pen. I didn't even now it does exist...Just great!

I would love to do some pictures for you... Unfortunately there is one ocean and one continent between your pens and my lenses...

Enjoy your new pen.

 

Christof

 

But more amazing than the pen itself is THIS:

 

"...but it fills one of the three holes in my collection...."

 

may be I will have to think about this the next couple of hours!

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simply stunning. I have never seen nor heard of this pen, but i love it. I enjoy seeing everything pelikan. Great find.

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Rick, that is a remarkable pen. Congratulations on the acquisition! Just out of curiosity, what are the other two holes in your collection?

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I promise to do some better images later in the week when I can get my photographic equipment out.

 

And I should note that the holes in my collection are as I perceive them. I do not mean to suggest that I have every variation of Pelikan 100 ever made, though I do have representative samples. For example I have just one 110 model, not all three patterns.

 

Rick

This is an outstanding pen. I didn't even now it does exist...Just great!

I would love to do some pictures for you... Unfortunately there is one ocean and one continent between your pens and my lenses...

Enjoy your new pen.

Christof

But more amazing than the pen itself is THIS:

"...but it fills one of the three holes in my collection...."

may be I will have to think about this the next couple of hours!

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I promise to do some better images later in the week when I can get my photographic equipment out.

And I should note that the holes in my collection are as I perceive them. I do not mean to suggest that I have every variation of Pelikan 100 ever made, though I do have representative samples. For example I have just one 110 model, not all three patterns.

 

Thank you Rick. Now I can sleep again...

 

I am sorry, I didn't wanted to criticise your pictures. I really was thinking of the pleasure to photograph a collection like yours: pure pleasure!

 

Christof

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On top of everything else, I think it is grand that the pen has landed in the hands of someone who will have supreme appreciation of it. That pen has found a very good home - congratulations, Rick!

"When Men differ in Opinion, both Sides ought equally to have the Advantage of being heard by the Publick; and that when Truth and Error have fair Play, the former is always an overmatch for the latter."

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I never knew such s pen existed in the Pelikan line, outstanding and gorgeous.

Thanks for sharing this info here.

Regards

Tadeyev

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Somebody posted on internet community in Korea about Mr. Propas's winning bid and his newly acquired rare item and have started another branch of thread there. I tracked back from there to this post.

 

This reminds me such a news that somebody mined a treasure in the heap of rubbish. Amazing point is that the guy recognized the treasure buried in a pile more than how much he paid for that. Please remember that some people are waiting for your following post showing more pictures of the beauty.

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Congrats Rick for the awesome purchase. What a rare bird! :yikes:

 

p/s Was it difficult for you the remove the steel binde as to correct the binde position?

 

Regards

Daeng

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