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Mixing Noodlers With Other Brands...?

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#1 stoof2010


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Posted 11 January 2014 - 00:30

So i was curious which noodlers inks can be mixed with other brands. Just got a bottle of kon-peki (expensive!!!) And wanted to play with the color a bit.
I tried mixing diamine poppy red with noodlers black. Worked well for a day then the next day it write just red... went to my vial i mixed them in and the inks had separated.... :-/
So anyone who knows.... can only non-bulletproof, non-baystate colors be mixed with other brands?!? Is it because of the chemical properties of those inks?!
I have a whole lot of noodlers and it would be sad if i couldbt mix any of them and have them stay mixed. Is precipitate the right word for them separated??
I dont know all the words and abbreviations and acronyms for the inks like BBK for bad belted kingfisher everyone uses...
Someone should have a thread of all the abbreviations for people that dont know....
Hint hint admins and moderators.... :-)
Thabks in advance for the info!!

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 01:12

I have mixed Noodler's black eel with Sheaffer's black and with Sheaffer's blue-black.


Noodler's Sequoia with Sheaffer's black.


Noodler's black eel with Montblanc violet.


Noodler's red black with Sheaffers black and also with Parker's black.


All these worked quite well.

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 14:58

I generally don't see mixing brands, Noodler's or otherwise, as being a brand-wide problem. Some mix, a few don't. The only thing you can do is try them and see.


One piece of advice I saw was to leave the mix in the container for as long as you intend it to stay in a pen before you actually put it in a pen. So if you think the mixture will stay in a pen for a week, make the mix, leave it in the container for a week and see if there is a problem. If not, go ahead.


Precipitate is, I believe, solids coming out of the mixture. 


If I liked the Diamine Poppy and Noodler's Black as I color, I might go ahead and use it, just shake it before I fill the pen. Though, it depends on how much separation occurs. One sees some separation with some inks on their own and you have to shake the bottle.  


Basically you want to do patient experimentation. 

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 17:58

Awesome thnks everyone.
Yeah thwy totally separated like oil and water after a day or two.
Im starting to see from my experiments that non bulletproof noodlers mixes the best with other inks. :-)

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 21:54

I've had decent luck with mixing bulletproof inks and non-bulletproof inks, but the non-bulletproof ink I used was a very simple ink (low saturation and few ingredients) and I also added lubricants, biocides and some water, so it wasn't a particularly simple ink mix.  It can work, but it's pretty individual and letting the mix sit in the vial for a day or two is pretty essential.

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Posted 11 January 2014 - 23:31

Hmm. Maybe ill try diluting the bulletproof black a bit first, then mix it with the non bulletproof ink. Just dont want to waste a whole bottle tinkering. Was hoping to get some advice to skip most of the dumb mistakes im bound to make... :/)

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Posted 12 January 2014 - 14:26

Using Noodler's inks can be kinda tricky, considering the different dyes/chemicals they use to attain their bulletproof qualities. Personally I only have experience with Noodlers Apache Sunset, which mixes just wonderfully with my other inks. 

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Posted 01 February 2014 - 18:51

FWIW, I've been mixing Noodler's Black with Quink Black for a couple of years now with no issues.

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Posted 05 February 2014 - 10:48

I've been mixing Noodler's Bulletproof Black with nearly everything for two years now.
All good. So far. . .  :)

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Posted 07 February 2014 - 12:39

I just mixed Noodler's Heart of Darkness with some Iroshizuku Shin-Ryoku last night, and it seems to be doing fine.  I have it in a preppy right now, so if it does go south I'll only be out a cheap pen.  


My advice is to not use the whole bottle mixing - do it in a sample vial or other small container so that you won't waste a bunch of ink on a bad mix.  And remember that you won't need much of a darker color to significantly change shades...

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