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Parker 51 Colour Identification Help Required (Nassau Green?)

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#1 FPcollection

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Posted 18 December 2013 - 06:08

Good day all!
I need help in identification of the colour of this Parker 51.
It is a pale green, definitely not forest green or teal... It perhaps could be Nassau Green. It is an aerometric filler and as per Parker51.com, there were few aerometric filler nassau greens made for export.
Any help in this regard would be very much appreciated!
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Edited by FPcollection, 18 December 2013 - 07:10.


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Posted 18 December 2013 - 06:28

To be honest, i,m not 100% sure, but it could be a rare nassau green single jeweled pen set. I,d suggest that you contact either Tony at parkerpens.net or Ernesto at parker51.com

Best of luck, paul

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Posted 18 December 2013 - 07:08

Thanks much Paul for your quick response!

I am also guessing in the same lines! Let's hope for the best haha!

I would definitely be in touch with the persons you mentioned...

Regards.

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Posted 18 December 2013 - 16:58

 Parker "51" Vacumatic Filler 

 

 

In the case of Midnight Black, Dove Gray, Cedar Blue, and Cordovan Brown, the double jewel models are more desirable than the single jewel models.  In the case of Buckskin Beige, Yellowstone Yellow, and Nassau Green, the single jewel models are actually much rarer.  This could be due to the fact that according to Parker internal literature of the time, the single jewel models of Buckskin Beige, Yellowstone Yellow, and Nassau Green  were available for export only.  Of the single jewel models, the Buckskin Beige version is by far the hardest to locate.

 

 

Above is the quote from the Parker51 site referring to Nassau Greens for export.  It is referring to single jeweled vacumatics  NOT single jeweled aerometrics. There were no double jeweled aerometrics.  There were no aerometric Nassau Green P51s.  Single jeweled Nassau Greens are very rare but they aren't aerometrics.


Edited by ANM, 19 December 2013 - 00:51.

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Posted 18 December 2013 - 23:49

A photo would definitely help, but my best guess is that the pen in question is Navy Grey.  Some I've seen have a bit of a light green cast to them.

 

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Posted 19 December 2013 - 00:43

A lot of the navy gray pens have turned color to a green.


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Posted 19 December 2013 - 01:28

I'm with Greg & Pajaro. Many of the grays & Navy-Grays I've seen trend towards green with time ...possibly UV exposure?


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Posted 06 January 2014 - 06:59

Good day all!
Was kind of tied up and did not find time to check the responses till now...thanks to you all!
I do not think it is a Navy Gray turned Green..and it is not the light either. It is clearly green.
I have not seen anything like this before..hence, my query.

Well, I am including the pictures...hope it helps.

Regards,
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Posted 06 January 2014 - 18:56

Date code on the barrel?

 

I'd guess badly discolored gray if it is an Aero.


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Posted 06 January 2014 - 23:49

I'm thinking navy gray based on the pencil in the set.

 

The pencil is a Parker 51 repeater pencil, which wasn't introduced until 1948 along with the Aerometric fountain pen, but as you said apparently a few nassau green Aeros were made for export.


Edited by Florida Blue, 06 January 2014 - 23:57.

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Posted 07 January 2014 - 00:50

Over time, I have collected 3 of these pens (a cap-actuated ballpoint, the repeater pencil and an aerometric FP) along with the box shown above.  All have the converging line gold-filled caps and very consistent coloring to the barrels.  They were found separately over the course of 6 - 7 years, and were not likely ever part of the same original set.  Based on all I have seen and read, mine (and yours) are Navy Gray.  In my way of thinking, it was a poor choice of color name (because my eyes see green), but....

 

When I first located the ballpoint - I too thought it might be the infamous Nassau Green, but was schooled otherwise by several FPN members.



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Posted 07 January 2014 - 04:27

Maybe if the photos were re-shot in natural light it would help.  It's very hard to judge colour by artificial light.



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Posted 07 January 2014 - 08:01

Guess this is really a Navy Grey and not a Nassau!  :unsure:



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Posted 08 January 2014 - 05:18

I'm thinking navy gray based on the pencil in the set.

 

The pencil is a Parker 51 repeater pencil, which wasn't introduced until 1948 along with the Aerometric fountain pen, but as you said apparently a few nassau green Aeros were made for export.

A few single jeweled Nassau vacs were made for export, they were not aeros. 


Edited by ANM, 08 January 2014 - 05:21.

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Posted 08 January 2014 - 22:16

A few single jeweled Nassau vacs were made for export, they were not aeros. 

 

I knew that, but the OP stated that "It is an aerometric filler and as per Parker51.com, there were few aerometric filler nassau greens made for export."

 

I had never heard of any Aeros in Nassau Green before and I don't know if that statement by the OP is true, but I was just going off of that.


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Posted 09 January 2014 - 00:59

Parker51.com says they wee vacs.  The OP misread the info.


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Posted 13 January 2014 - 10:20

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Edited by FPcollection, 13 January 2014 - 10:21.


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Posted 09 March 2015 - 04:46

A few single jeweled Nassau vacs were made for export, they were not aeros. 

May be the single jeweled Vac Nassau barrel was fitted in this Aero pen.  And the pencil is from a Vac set. Isn't it possible?


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Posted 09 March 2015 - 12:56

I am not sure what you are asking but vac and aero barrels are not interchangeable and Nassau green was only made for vac pens, but even if it were possible, the hood would not match the barrel. Aero pens were Forest Green.  It is common for the Nassau pencil and pen to fade differently because they were made from different materials, so even a matched set, by this time, most often don't match anymore.


Edited by ANM, 09 March 2015 - 13:00.

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Posted 09 March 2015 - 13:33

I am not sure what you are asking but vac and aero barrels are not interchangeable and Nassau green was only made for vac pens, but even if it were possible, the hood would not match the barrel. Aero pens were Forest Green.  It is common for the Nassau pencil and pen to fade differently because they were made from different materials, so even a matched set, by this time, most often don't match anymore.


But the pen set shown by OP looks , to me at least , to be actually a Nassau green. Not a grey turned green. And if in case it turns out so, should we still "go by the book" against this irrefutable evidence? In other words are the sources quoted infallible?
Khan M. Ilyas





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