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#21 mac.kozinsky

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Posted 15 November 2013 - 15:42

Thank you David :)

 

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Posted 15 November 2013 - 15:57

Boundless thanks to David for crafting this article and consequently reducing my blood pressure.

 

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Posted 15 November 2013 - 16:04

 

Daniel:

 

Thanks for explaining it (probably once again) for us.

 

With "highest quality" I was merely refering to the fact that cheaper pens (e.g. no. 3, Junior, Craftsman) were lacking said platinum plating and thus patented in 1931 improved ink flow qualities. Which makes a clear distincion, in terms of nominal value, between FT and non-feathertouch pens.

As for the silk smoothness I was just quoting one of the advertisements ... this "feature" is often refered to, as well as two-way writing qualities of FT nibs. At least you find them together in the same adverts, right? The ones claiming  that "platinum covered channel 'lubricates' and induces the right flow" also say about "the smoothest writing point" and that "78% less pressure is required in writing" which I guess also doesn't make it "feel" less smooth, does it?

 

 

Oh, Don't mind me, really ...

 

Daniel, I realize that a Patent stating that "It has thus been proven that the platinum plating on the gold pen greatly improves the flow and spread of the writing fluid employed." and marketing bragging about smooth nibs not necessarily in connection with the actual qualities resulting from the invention nor being consistently used when FT is advertised as a certain patented quality and trademarked name are two different things. Still all the things I mentioned above are there and I guess for a reason, right? I mean, there aren't just claims with no grounds ... 

 

I chose my words with care; here they are again, with the salient points emphasized :

 

Note the Feathertouch principle did not pertain, strictly speaking, to some higher quality nor to a grade of smoothness. The benefits centered on consistent ink flow.

 

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Posted 07 October 2014 - 12:54

1923 Eversharp and Wahl Service Manual, among other types of nibs, like Manifold or Posting, also contains this:

 

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So, someone actually used the "W" word as somewhat generic term - not that it changes the big picture ("painted" so well by David) a lot, but maybe a tiny bit ...? :)

Notice that WE description uses Waterman catalogue terms and states, that such nibs are "sometimes" called "ball point" and "turn up".

 

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Posted 07 October 2014 - 14:07

1923 Eversharp and Wahl Service Manual, among other types of nibs, like Manifold or Posting, also contains this:

 

468150c377484bae.jpg

 

So, someone actually used the "W" word as somewhat generic term - not that it changes the big picture ("painted" so well by David) a lot, but maybe a tiny bit ...? :)

Notice that WE description uses Waterman catalogue terms and states, that such nibs are "sometimes" called "ball point" and "turn up".

 

BR,

Maciek

 

This is a great find! Thank you for posting it. It does indeed change the picture, as it shows that Waverley (though even W-E misspelled it as "Waverly"!) had at least started to become a generic term, contrary to what I, at least, had thought.

 

This is great stuff. Thanks again.

 

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Posted 07 October 2014 - 14:27

I'm not nervous but, I am getting old - maybe this is the nib for me.

 

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Posted 07 October 2014 - 19:22

This same nib style was described in the Wahl catalog introducing the 1925 model year items (Catalog No. 103), but it is interesting that in the very next catalog (104), the company re-worded the description of that nib style, eliminating the use of "Waverly [sic]" and replacing it with "Ballpoint."

 

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Edited by kirchh, 07 October 2014 - 19:24.

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