Diamine 30Ml Are A Nuisance To Use With A Piston Filler

[Sach]

I love Diamine for their range of colours and quality in general and really appreciate that they are willing to offer the small sampler, 30ml bottles. The trouble is they are awful to use with a piston filler like an M800. I absolutely hate having to use them, and end up spilling most of the ink whilst trying to fill my pens beyond the first couple of fill or so...

[elderberry]

Same here... Which is why I ended up buying 80 ml bottles of some colors I already have in the 30 ml size, just to be able to use them in my piston fillers. (I'm sure this is the intention! Just evil.)

[wastelanded]

I went to the dollar store, bought a bag of play doh. Pushed a lump of it onto the table, and pushed the bottle into the center of it.

 

You can create a bottle support out of wood too, fancy as you want. Those small Diamine bottles are too good a deal to give up on!

[Dillo]

Hi,

 

They have a fairly small opening on the top, so it's much easier to use them if you use slimmer pens. In any case, if I have to refill a thicker pen, I tend to transfer the ink into in sample vials. The ones I have and provide for the exchange program here hold 7 ml when full, but I fill them to the 5 ml mark in order to have some more head space to refill my pen. In any case, the plastic 30 ml bottles that Diamine uses are quite leakproof. I like them when traveling, but the opening on the top can be too small for a lot of pens.

 

Dillon

[irrigger]

I have to agree with you, but I usually decant the ink into either a sample vial or Visconti travelling ink pot for filling my larger piston fillers.

[DrCodfish]

An easy solution with Pelikans: Remove the nib, and fill the pen with a syringe. I bught one just for that purpose form Goulet pens.

[The Good Captain]

I agree. So, I just look at the pretty colours on here and elsewhere, and then just buy the 80ml. In for a penny; in for a pound. Rather than try everything, look at the comments and reviews and assess. Then purchase.

After all; someone's tests and comments are only really relevant to their pen/nib/paper set-up, aren't they?

[lapis]

I agree too and that's why I've never ever bought a 30-er bottle. Only 80-ers. Talk about an M800... have you ever tried out an M1000? (BTW, both the 30-ers and the 80-ers have the same price per ml.)

 

Mike

[whichwatch]

Just tried one for the first time today - with exactly the same result. I got about equal amounts of ink on my hands and desk as I got into the pen.

[dcwaites]

Four of the Diamine 30 ml bottles fit nicely into a Private Reserve box (I fold the top and side flaps in).

[smiorgan]

On my latest shopping trip I deliberately bought 2 x 80ml bottles, rather than 5 x 30 ml. Partly it was the bottle (which is a pain with the Safari section too) and partly it was my desire to limit my number of inks in use. Sure I'd like to try and own every Diamine dark green, but Evergreen (and now Salamander) fit my needs.

[I like mango cheesecake]

hmmm. I've never had that problem even with my fattest pens. I just bought 10 30ml bottles and never once spilled anything.

[martinbir]

I have always looked carefully at reviews etc. before buying but so often find an ink is not quite what I had hoped (yes, I suppose I must be really picky). So the 30ml bottles are ideal for me - I regard them as samples and have a clear conscience when I don't like an ink. If I like it enough to finish the bottle I can get an 80ml with confidence.

 

Yes, the bottle shape is a bit awkward but also usefully compact.

[Zanshin]

There are workarounds for piston fillers.

 

Now vac fillers are a different thing. The explosion of Sargasso Sea when I put my TWSBI Vac 700 into the 30ml bottle was quite impressive. I hadn't really thought that one through. My desk at work cleaned up ok but my hands...

[elderberry]

There are workarounds for piston fillers.

 

Now vac fillers are a different thing. The explosion of Sargasso Sea when I put my TWSBI Vac 700 into the 30ml bottle was quite impressive. I hadn't really thought that one through. My desk at work cleaned up ok but my hands...

 

Thanks for the warning! Would've happened to me too I guess. Though the whole thing might've been even more "interesting" in a full-to-the-brim bottle of Noodler's or Diamine. I never spilled anything of the small Diamine bottles myself with a piston filler which isn't hard to do as I simply don't get in or not far enough.

 

You'll be OK with a M800 as long as the bottle is fairly full as it will only go in about as far as the section/cap threads.

 

At least those inks are available in another bottle! I wish it were the same with Herbin Rouge Hematite which also has that annoyingly small opening. I can eyedropper fill the Pelikans but I'd love to see that ink in my 149 with O(B)BB nib. I guess I never will.

[DanielCoffey]

Just transfer it to a 20ml Nalgene for filling wide pens... or buy a TWSBI inkwell...

[mallymal1]

Oh yes, I think we all know the problems of 'the bigger pen' meets the 'Diamine 30ml bottle'. Not pleasant sometimes!

 

If I'm going to use the ink in something like an MB 149, I decant into a Nalgene bottle...and if I really like the ink, and I'm going to use a lot of it, then I simply buy the 80ml bottle.

 

I think it's best to regard the 30mls as testers, and many thanks to Diamine for producing them.

Edited October 18, 2013 by mallymal1

[davidv7]

I use spare Pelikan 30 ml bottles for my wider Delta pens.

[JakobS]

I transferred my 30ml inks into 45ml hexagonal glass jars that I found at a glass jar reseller online. They provide a wider mouth and base, and airtight lids. I can make my own labels as fancy or simple as I like to know what inks are in what jar, and to make them even more personal. Also, when the ink starts to become low, I can angle them in different ways to get the best fill.

Edited October 22, 2013 by JakobS

[lapis]

I love Diamine for their range of colours and quality in general and really appreciate that they are willing to offer the small sampler, 30ml bottles. The trouble is they are awful to use with a piston filler like an M800. I absolutely hate having to use them, and end up spilling most of the ink whilst trying to fill my pens beyond the first couple of fill or so...

Abslutely... That's why my M1000 doesn't buy them.