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#21 Ron Z

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Posted 28 April 2015 - 18:34

As a guy who has to repair pens on a regular basis, I think that the Duofold is a much better pen.  Better quality, materials that won't pit or corrode when exposed to ink, lighter with better balance.  Some of the newer Parkers (Sonnet is one example) are not well made, not made to be repaired at all.  You can break down a Duofold and replace parts in many cases.  The modern Premier looks more like one pressed and glued together, where the manuals say "replace...."


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Posted 28 April 2015 - 18:39

Agree with Ron - modern Premier....meh.

 

Original was an excellent pen!


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Posted 29 April 2015 - 00:37

Original was an excellent pen!

 

Seems to be a theme with modern pens.  Borrow the name and the "history" but make it in China and hope that the public won't notice the difference.


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Posted 29 April 2015 - 00:52

Yeah , I meant the original Premier. Not the modern Chinese one.
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Posted 29 April 2015 - 19:22

Duofold.

 

Whether it's a 90's flattop or a modern streamline it's a stunning beauty with excellent characteristics. I agree with all the previous reactions (especially Richard's) concerning the quality and writing experience of the Duofold. Besides that, for me the Duofold is the most beautiful pen. It's the one pen that made me go 'WOAW' when I first saw it (at the end of the 80's), its classic design is as timeless as a Greek collumn.

The Premier looks Chinese cheap and feels Chinese unpleasant to me at quite a higher price tag, but as always: de gustibus et coloribus non est disputandum.

 

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Posted 30 April 2015 - 20:04

I'm battling this thoughts kind of more than a year ago... I don't own a Premier, just a Duofold. But even if I look the pictures Duofold wins, although a Rose Gold premier looks attractive, but for some reason Duofold Lapis Lazuli looks even more attractive. And they are in the same price range... well no matter how hard I try to convince myself Duofold wins, not mention have a Rose Gold Sonnet, considering it looking even better.



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Posted 30 April 2015 - 20:52

Go with original Duofold or Premier models, though the last couple generations of retro Duofold have come in interesting colors and sizes.


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Posted 23 May 2015 - 00:32

As a guy who has to repair pens on a regular basis, I think that the Duofold is a much better pen.  Better quality, materials that won't pit or corrode when exposed to ink, lighter with better balance.  Some of the newer Parkers (Sonnet is one example) are not well made, not made to be repaired at all.  You can break down a Duofold and replace parts in many cases.  The modern Premier looks more like one pressed and glued together, where the manuals say "replace...."

 

Wrong and wrong again!  The Duofold seems plasticky and cheap to me. And why would you want to replace parts of a pen?  The Premier is a much superior pen to the Sonnet.



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Posted 23 May 2015 - 00:43

I love Duofolds, having a P&B in each of the 2 sizes & a BI on each.

 

The design of the Premier is a complete turn off for me. Looks like an expensive IM, which in turn looks & feels like a cheap & cheerful Chinese pen with an expensive pen price tag.

 

Now, you may like flashy Chinese looking pens at Parker pen prices. If so, get one.

Personally, I prefer Chinese looking pens at Chinese pen prices. Though, I really wouldn't object to Parker pens at Chinese pen prices, but can't have everything! :unsure:

 

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Once you hold it and use it you will find that it's nothing like a Chinese pen.  I have the Premier in black lacquer and gold trim - the quality, fit and finish are first class and much superior to the current Duofold, which is a piece of cheap plastic with a gold nib at the end.  The flat top Duofolds of the early 90s were great pens, but now they are just cheap tat sold for £200+.  The Premier can be had for £150 or so.

I also have very expensive Dupont Elysee lacquer pens and the quality of the Premier is on a par with them - at half the price! 



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Posted 23 May 2015 - 07:03

 

 

Once you hold it and use it you will find that it's nothing like a Chinese pen.  I have the Premier in black lacquer and gold trim - the quality, fit and finish are first class and much superior to the current Duofold, which is a piece of cheap plastic with a gold nib at the end.  The flat top Duofolds of the early 90s were great pens, but now they are just cheap tat sold for £200+.  The Premier can be had for £150 or so.

I also have very expensive Dupont Elysee lacquer pens and the quality of the Premier is on a par with them - at half the price! 

As I said on another post, the Premier is a competent writer but is not for me and, yes, it does remind me of Chinese made pens only not quite so well finished as some. The Duofold scores every time.


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Posted 23 May 2015 - 17:56

The Duofold scores every time.

 

The only problem is that it scores a lot of own goals!  :)



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Posted 23 May 2015 - 18:19

The only problem is that it scores a lot of own goals!  :)



And the premier has no [own] goals to score?
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Posted 23 May 2015 - 18:59

 

The only problem is that it scores a lot of own goals!  :)

 

I think not.


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Posted 22 October 2015 - 21:48

I personnaly own a beautiful Premier :

 

 

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And a friend of mine asked me to sell his pen because he wants to get rid of the pens he doesn't use anymore, including Premier ...

 

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Posted 23 October 2015 - 15:18

Based on personal experience the Premier is one of Parker's best modern pens since the Sonnet. It pays homage to the legendary Parker 75 with a modern twist. It doesn't look cheap or "chinese" from my POV. If you want to see what "chinese" pens look like take a look at modern Sheaffer pens, those pens are made in China, the Premier is made in France. Parker and Waterman has formed a nice synergy together as this pen uses the same nib and feed as the Phileas which is touted for having one of the smoothest nibs except this one is 18K, and Parker has maintained its brand identity through the modernized arrow clip, the end jewels and the unique body shape which has a gradual taper to both ends. The only thing I don't like about this pen is the chrome section but it makes up for it with the 6 engraved lines which helps with grip. It seems as though a lot of these new 'high end' pens are opting for a chrome section such as the Dupont Line D. Other than that though the pen is built exceptionally well and I'm saving up for one for Christmas. The ballpoint is beautiful as well. 

 

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Posted 23 October 2015 - 15:30

Based on personal experience the Premier is one of Parker's best modern pens since the Sonnet. It pays homage to the legendary Parker 75 with a modern twist. It doesn't look cheap or "chinese" from my POV. If you want to see what "chinese" pens look like take a look at modern Sheaffer pens, those pens are made in China, the Premier is made in France. Parker and Waterman has formed a nice synergy together as this pen uses the same nib and feed as the Phileas which is touted for having one of the smoothest nibs except this one is 18K, and Parker has maintained its brand identity through the modernized arrow clip, the end jewels and the unique body shape which has a gradual taper to both ends. The only thing I don't like about this pen is the chrome section but it makes up for it with the 6 engraved lines which helps with grip. It seems as though a lot of these new 'high end' pens are opting for a chrome section such as the Dupont Line D. Other than that though the pen is built exceptionally well and I'm saving up for one for Christmas. The ballpoint is beautiful as well. 
 
Thanks,
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No body is talking about these original Parker Premier pens when they say these look Chinese. It is the modern Premier pens that, indeed, do look and feel Chines.
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Posted 23 October 2015 - 16:39

I think possibly opinions are very divided on the Premier, and it's a 'Marmite' pen, with either love or hate and nothing in between.. I doubt if either side will convince the other.

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Posted 23 October 2015 - 18:32

No body is talking about these original Parker Premier pens when they say these look Chinese. It is the modern Premier pens that, indeed, do look and feel Chines.

I was talking about the Modern one. The original one doesn't do much for me. 



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Posted 23 October 2015 - 18:33

I think possibly opinions are very divided on the Premier, and it's a 'Marmite' pen, with either love or hate and nothing in between.. I doubt if either side will convince the other.

Regards,

Richard.

 

Agreed. That's what makes this hobby so great and fun, if everyone had the same taste then it wouldn't be much of a hobby. It's always good to see and hear other peoples opinion.

 

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Posted 23 October 2015 - 19:02

Duofold, because - one: It's a classic and writes like nobody's business, two: It's parker's flagship pen.

 

You might eventually end up getting both, right now it's just a matter of which one you pick first!







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