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#1 bernardoarcos

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Posted 19 August 2013 - 15:25

Hi everyone!

 

Last week I check several websites, and a special one offer several Montblanc products with huge discount prices. For your reference website is http://www.montblancluxurypen.com

 

My question is very simple, anyone of my dear FPN fellow have purchased on this website?

 

I will deeply appreciate your comments and help.

 

Warmest regards  :)

 

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#2 LOGAN

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Posted 19 August 2013 - 15:28

Stay away. If it is too good to be true, it is.

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Posted 19 August 2013 - 15:37

Looks to be another fake Mont Blanc website.


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Posted 19 August 2013 - 15:43

A reputable e-commerce website will have certain criteria that customers expect to see. Amongst these will be full contact details and a sensible and practical returns policy. If you don't see these, click away.

 

If you want to delve further (not that this is necessary) you will find that the domain is registered in China but the website is trying to look like it is based in Europe or the USA.

 

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A: To exchange a product, you must email us and inform us of the reason. We will then provide you with further instructions. The goods can be exchanged within 3 days of the receipt date provided they are unworn and in the original condition with all the original packaging and labels. When returning an item for an exchange, please ensure that your name, address, phone number and instructions are clearly indicated. All shipping costs associated with the exchange of goods are the responsibility of the consumer.
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Posted 19 August 2013 - 15:43

Looks to be another fake Mont Blanc website.

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Posted 19 August 2013 - 15:45

Domain Name: MONTBLANCLUXURYPEN.COM
Registrar: HICHINA ZHICHENG TECHNOLOGY LTD.
Whois Server: grs-whois.hichina.com
Referral URL: http://www.net.cn
Name Server: DNS1.SERVERFREAK.BIZ
Name Server: DNS2.SERVERFREAK.BIZ
Status: ok
Updated Date: 24-may-2013
Creation Date: 24-may-2013
Expiration Date: 24-may-2014

 


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#7 bernardoarcos

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Posted 19 August 2013 - 15:47

Dear FPN´s fellows,

 

Thanks for your comments, 

 

As you comment, I think is a fake Mont Blanc website... it so good to be true...

 

Thanks for your help

 

Cheers!

 

Bernardo 



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Posted 19 August 2013 - 15:48

Thanks jar for extra information about website domain!

 

Cheers

 

Bernardo



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Posted 19 August 2013 - 16:16

Domain Name: MONTBLANCLUXURYPEN.COM
Registrar: HICHINA ZHICHENG TECHNOLOGY LTD.
Whois Server: grs-whois.hichina.com
Referral URL: http://www.net.cn
Name Server: DNS1.SERVERFREAK.BIZ
Name Server: DNS2.SERVERFREAK.BIZ
Status: ok
Updated Date: 24-may-2013
Creation Date: 24-may-2013
Expiration Date: 24-may-2014

 

Jar, do you have a special piece of software to do this?

 

Anyway, yes it is definitely yet another web-site trying to sell counterfeit goods, or scam people out of money, or both.



#10 bernardoarcos

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Posted 19 August 2013 - 16:25

A reputable e-commerce website will have certain criteria that customers expect to see. Amongst these will be full contact details and a sensible and practical returns policy. If you don't see these, click away.

 

If you want to delve further (not that this is necessary) you will find that the domain is registered in China but the website is trying to look like it is based in Europe or the USA.

 

HTH,

 

Martin

 

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Spot the deliberate mistake...

 

Dear twdpens, thanks for your comment

 

For me, the mistake is all return process, is it not practical at all

 

Thanks for your comment.

 

Warmest regards

 

Bernardo



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Posted 19 August 2013 - 17:17

Those are Mont Blancs and not Montblancs they sell. BTW 1600 Hemingway FP in stock. Which brings us to another point, suppose they can deliver their counterfeit, it would mean they now make alse copies of piston fillers. On the other hand a 149 wasn't on their site!

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Posted 19 August 2013 - 17:29

Those are Mont Blancs and not Montblancs they sell. BTW 1600 Hemingway FP in stock. Which brings us to another point, suppose they can deliver their counterfeit, it would mean they now make alse copies of piston fillers. On the other hand a 149 wasn't on their site!


After some minimal research, it is a fact that they make replica MB piston fillers. It looks like they sell for around $80 or so.

Take a look here: http://www.replica-w...a-96362p14.html

Unfortunately, I think it will only get worse.

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Posted 19 August 2013 - 17:49

Jar, do you have a special piece of software to do this?

 
No special software needed, it's just what's known as a "whois" lookup and it identifies the owner of the domain name - in this case montblancluxurypen.com.
 
This is the website I use, which works with all international top-level domains (eg .com, .net, .org etc): internic.net/whois.html. For .uk domains use www.nic.uk.
 
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Posted 19 August 2013 - 20:06

After some minimal research, it is a fact that they make replica MB piston fillers. It looks like they sell for around $80 or so.

Take a look here: http://www.replica-w...a-96362p14.html

Unfortunately, I think it will only get worse.

 

 

I've been saying for years that the idea of "If it is a piston it won't get faked" is outdated.  Price the Reform 1745, Noodlers piston fillers, several Indian piston fillers ...


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Posted 19 August 2013 - 20:12

I agree, jar.

 

It looks like they are really targeting the WE and LE pens. From what I've seen, still no replica 146s or 149s. But, WE and LE pens are in danger of being copied. To any true MB collector, there are a hundred tells, especially when you look at the nibs. ;)



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Posted 19 August 2013 - 20:41

...snip...

 

Which brings us to another point, suppose they can deliver their counterfeit

 

...snip...

 

Why would they bother delivering anything, once they have your money and your credit card details?

 

That would just eat into their profits.



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Posted 19 August 2013 - 23:53

Why would they bother delivering anything, once they have your money and your credit card details?
 
That would just eat into their profits.


Makes a big difference'
1. When they only are after ones money and don't deliver goods ( in this case bads ), there is only one victim, the one who is stupid enough to think one can buy a MB LE at a ridiculous price.
2. When they deliver the merchandise, these copies will have an impact on the market. Sure, for the experienced collector there will be no great problems to recognise a fraud, but when one starts a collection? What if someone uses parts of a copy to refurbish a scruffy Hemingway for example?

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 12:10

Makes a big difference'
1. When they only are after ones money and don't deliver goods ( in this case bads ), there is only one victim, the one who is stupid enough to think one can buy a MB LE at a ridiculous price.
2. When they deliver the merchandise, these copies will have an impact on the market. Sure, for the experienced collector there will be no great problems to recognise a fraud, but when one starts a collection? What if someone uses parts of a copy to refurbish a scruffy Hemingway for example?

 

Fair point. 

And if they actually do have all the stock they claim to have, then maybe they are in it for the long game, which would make your second point valid, indeed.

 

My suspicion of these type of sites is that they are in it for the short con. One (stupid) victim could yield enough to pay for the website - and more. Two/three/more (stupid) victims could yield an (unscrupulous) fortune. Then, once they have your details - what's next? Who knows? Identity theft? Fraud? 

 

Just guessing, here. No actual experience of this site, other than looking at it after reading this thread.

I'd still stay well away from it.

 

Thanks.

 

 

Edited to add: I refer to the site mentioned in the OP


Edited by CS388, 20 August 2013 - 12:44.


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Posted 20 August 2013 - 12:21

After some minimal research, it is a fact that they make replica MB piston fillers. It looks like they sell for around $80 or so.

Take a look here: http://www.replica-w...a-96362p14.html

Unfortunately, I think it will only get worse.

 

 

 

I've been saying for years that the idea of "If it is a piston it won't get faked" is outdated.  Price the Reform 1745, Noodlers piston fillers, several Indian piston fillers ...

 

I was hoping to see a piston filler, the pics show a "captive converter"


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Posted 20 August 2013 - 14:23

 

 

I was hoping to see a piston filler, the pics show a "captive converter"

 

Look at the Reform 1745 or Twsbi or Noodlers.


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