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Plugging holes in a Sonnet


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#1 Sidney

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Posted 14 May 2005 - 22:01

I've read that Parker Sonnets, as with all modern Parkers, have a breather hole in the cap that cause the nib to dry out if unused for a few days. Where is the hole at and how do I plug it?
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Posted 14 May 2005 - 23:33

On the Parker Reflex that I was just tinkering with, there was a good-sized hole under the clip where it joins the cap.

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Posted 15 May 2005 - 00:32

That is were I heard the hole is but, I don't know how to get to it to plug it.
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Posted 15 May 2005 - 00:43

Hi Sidney,

The Parkers I had, all had their vent holes underneath the clip. In order to block it, you can uses a little soft wax, applied from the outside.

However, it you are trying to stop the pen from drying out: don't bother, it is not going to help. Speaking from experience here.

I think (but am not sure), that the vent hole, despite reports to indicate it is there to prevent small children from choking when it gets in the wind tube, it really is there to prevent ink accidents to happen with under- and overpressure. Try sucking air in, and breathing out again, through the cap, and you'll understand what I mean regarding the choking problem.

Just my 2c.

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Posted 21 May 2005 - 00:53

I have two Sonnets and fixed both by melting candle wax and pouring it under and around the clip. Once dry, I carefully removed the wax I didn't want to remain. I tested by blowing through the cap - no leaks! I've found that doing this stopped the pens from drying out while capped.

I first tried sealing the top part of the cap, assuming that was where the air passed through. I quickly found that not to be the case.
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Posted 21 May 2005 - 02:05

Upon closer inspection I found no inner cap (cap liner?). I contacted Parker about this and was told that some of their pens have cap liners and some do not. Then I was given the "how to use a fountain pen" information and if I still have problems then I should send it in. My Sonnet works fine if I use it everyday but, if it sits for two then it becomes a hard starter.
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Posted 21 May 2005 - 18:52

Hi Sidney,

Upon closer inspection I found no inner cap (cap liner?).

Same thing on all the Parkers I ever owned.

I contacted Parker about this and was told that some of their pens have cap liners and some do not. Then I was given the "how to use a fountain pen" information and if I still have problems then I should send it in. My Sonnet works fine if I use it everyday but, if it sits for two then it becomes a hard starter.

My remaining Parker doesn't write anymore after a few days either. I have given up on it after having sent it back 5 times. Unfortunately, I only did this over the last two years, while I bought the thing 7 years ago, when I knew nothing about fountain pens.

In itself their service is good, but they don't seem to know how to fix a pen either. I think it is a pity, because I never had that problem with any other pen I ever had to send back. I don't mind doing that, occasionally, and only once for any pen, but this was too much :D.

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Posted 21 May 2005 - 19:19

From looking at my Sonnets, they have air "leaks" around the clip AND cap crown (around the black dot). Is wax the best way to seal this up? My medium nib does ok if left alone for a few days, but the fine nib dries up. I'd love to find a way around this.
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Posted 21 May 2005 - 19:33

Hi Southpaw,

Wax is the best way to seal up any manufactured gaps and holes, because it is non-destructive, and relatively easily removable, in case you want to bring the pen back to its original state.

HTH, warm regards, Wim

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Posted 21 May 2005 - 19:51

Thanks Wim.

One further question for newbie clarification as I've never attempted anything like this. I gather from inkyfingers comment that the wax is best applied from the exterior OR can it be dripped into the cap (at least to seal the very end with the black dot)? I realize that sealing the clip will have to be done from the exterior.

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Posted 21 May 2005 - 20:07

Hi Southpaw,

Thanks Wim.

One further question for newbie clarification as I've never attempted anything like this.  I gather from inkyfingers comment that the wax is best applied from the exterior OR can it be dripped into the cap (at least to seal the very end with the black dot)? I realize that sealing the clip will have to be done from the exterior.

THANKS,
southpaw

That's how I do it, on both counts.
Light a candle, wait for some wax to melt, get one drop to fall down into the cap, straight down to the center bottom, and just hope it fixes the problem.
Blow out the candle, and use a toothpick, or anything with a flat, thin end, to plug up the hole under the clip with a little bit of very sioft wax. Let it get hard again, and carefully remove the excess.

Sometimes you do have to do this several times. You know you have gone too far when the nib comes out afterwards with the tip coated in wax :lol:. But then, it is easy to remove :D.

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Posted 21 May 2005 - 20:22

Wim,
Once again, thanks for sharing from your fountain pen profundity.
Perhaps we should change your moniker to, "The Mad Dutch Guru"?????
Once again in your debt,
southpaw

Edited by southpaw, 21 May 2005 - 20:22.

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Posted 21 May 2005 - 20:35

Hi Southpaw,

It is only a pleasure! And I would't agree with a change in my monker anyway :D.
I am a JOATMON, after all, not a guru... :lol:

Now you go figure that out first :lol:.

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Posted 21 May 2005 - 20:49

Wim,
JOATMON - I don't have time for that . . . just tell me.
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Posted 21 May 2005 - 21:03

Wim,
JOATMON - I don't have time for that . . . just tell me.

JOATMAN= Jack of All Trades Master Of None

(although I sincerely doubt this applies to our overly-modest Mad Dutchman :) )

Thank you Google.com! :lol:

Edited by Maja, 21 May 2005 - 21:04.

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Posted 21 May 2005 - 21:13

Maja,
I absolutely agree. JOATMON certainly does not apply to The Mad Dutch Fountain Pen Guru. His mastery is manifest throughout these pages as evident by nearly 1500 postings (wow - he really talks / posts a lot, doesn't he?) - just picking wim. :P
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Posted 21 May 2005 - 23:05

Hi Southpaw, Maja,

You're all too kind, and everything is relative. I don't know even half as much as, for example, Keith. And there are things, even with fountain pens, I will never learn, because I am not really interested or interested enough in certain aspects.

Yeah, I do seem to post a lot, but there are a few other peopel who pos a lot too, even more than I do :lol: . Phew!... :D

Posting a lot doesn't necessarily mean I am a guro, oh no, maybe I am, in rambling on forever :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :P :P

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Posted 24 May 2005 - 00:44

I agree with Southpaw - my one and only Sonnet leaks very noticeably on the top (around the jewel), and also at the point where the clip enters the cap. The same happens to my Parker Frontier, BTW. Also, I´ve found the new Parker 45 has a big hole on the cap just above the spot where the arrow tip touches the cap; the older 45s are completely sealed. I´ve seen these cap holes in some vintage models, such as Parker Duofold and all Esterbrooks, but I know of no modern brand other than Parker that has breather holes in the cap. What are they for, really? I agree with Wim in that they are too small to be of any help in the (unlikely) event of someone swallowing a cap. But if they are there to prevent ink spilling because of changes of pressure, as Wim suggests, how come the other brands do not use them? :blink:

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Posted 24 May 2005 - 01:36

... I left out another Parker I have around: my Parker Vector also leaks at the clip/cap joint. That means all modern Parkers I own have those cap vents...
Do the modern Duofolds have them too?

Speaking of cap holes, and going waaay down in PenDom, I´ve noticed that even the Bic sticks have now holes at the tip of their caps. They surely didn´t have those when I was a kid and used them at school. Now, what are they for? :blink:

Edited by Rique, 24 May 2005 - 12:32.


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Posted 01 June 2005 - 18:57

I finally tried this on my Blue Sonnet. First, I dropped wax down inside. After numerous drops and cleaning wax off the sides of the cap, I finally got what appreared to be a good seal around the very top of the cap.

Next, I took some soft wax and pressed it into the gap under the clip - got it in there really good. I then blew into the cap and . . . . out came a whole bunch of air :( :angry: :blink: :bonk: !!! I looked real closely at the inside of the cap and, much to my dismay, discovered that halfway down the cap there are three rectangular slots. It appears that the cap is made with some sort of sleeve configuration. The slots allow air to bypass the bottom of the cap (when inverted) and still exit around the black end cap. Unless those slots are plugged, this rascal will NOT seal.

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Oh well, looks like it'll just be a use it or lose it pen (lose the ink as it dries up)!
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