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Pelikan To Discontinue Bb, 3B And All Oblique Nibs

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#41 Tombstone

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Posted 04 August 2013 - 06:55

Actually the out-of-standard-nibs already create a higher value on the usual market places.

 

Just sold a couple of pens and found out that an OBBB in an M1000 created an extra-value of about 25%...

 

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#42 georges zaslavsky

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Posted 04 August 2013 - 07:51

Actually the out-of-standard-nibs already create a higher value on the usual market places.

 

Just sold a couple of pens and found out that an OBBB in an M1000 created an extra-value of about 25%...

 

:yikes:

Perhaps Ghostplane bought one of your pens who knows ;)


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Posted 05 August 2013 - 19:46

I visited Penbox (www.penbox.co.uk) in North Lincolnshire this afternoon and bought a Souverän 800 in green/black with an italic nib (very competitively priced, as usual). 

They have some of the broader Pelikan nibs.


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Posted 20 August 2013 - 07:13

A few years ago I purchased a lightly used M800 with a 3OB nib because the price was right on the "bay".  When I purchased the pen I had full intentions of selling the nib and buying a broad or even a medium nib to replace it after writing with it for a few weeks I decided that I would be an idiot to sell that nib. Sure it took a bit to get used to holding the pen a little different than "normal" but I love the way it writes. I will admit I have thought about having it worked on a bit to get it a bit crispier for a bit more line variation but I just have not gotten around to doing that yet.  Truthfully until I find another pen I enjoy writing with this much I would have a hard time with it not in my meager rotation for the couple of three weeks it would be away getting the nib worked done.  My personal opinion I think Pelikan would be foolish in not offering the oblique nibs and BB or 3B nibs.  From a business standpoint I understand there problem if they are getting a lot of exchanges of the oblique nibs and the BB 3B are getting traded back in however I think if Pelikan does stop offering these nib they will hurting themselves in the long run.  Maybe the solution for Pelikan is to stop 30 day nib exchange policy or have some sort of fee associated with a nib exchange


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Posted 04 October 2013 - 15:07

Can anyone confirm how much difference in writing there is on an OB nib versus an IB nib on an M800 ?



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Posted 04 October 2013 - 15:33

Can anyone confirm how much difference in writing there is on an OB nib versus an IB nib on an M800 ?


It's very different. I have the OBB , and O3B and the IB, and the obliques are both very blobby. The IB is crisper, but more like a stub than anything else. it's not as crisp as a custom CI but is one of my favourite nibs since I got it one a few months ago.

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Posted 04 October 2013 - 15:40

To add to the above Pelikan oblique nibs are NOT designed to offer any significant line variation over and above the standard rounded points. Moreover, the tip width of the B and OB nibs is less than 1mm whereas the IB is around 1.3mm.

 

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Posted 04 October 2013 - 15:50

Thanks gents for the prompt replys, that cements which nib to get. :-)



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Posted 05 October 2013 - 00:26

I recently acquired an IB nib for M800.  I love the nib, one of the best I've ever hand right out of the box, and far superior to the BB I had which someone else accurately characterized as quite blobby.  I am new-ish to FP's but had the impression that the IB was a relatively recent introduction from Pelikan, is that correct? 

 

Will the IB also be discontinued?  If so, what a shame.



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Posted 05 October 2013 - 07:00

I have Montblanc and Pelikan obliques in all sizes except medium and I'm glad I went after them before they became scarce. Most of them I've sent to a nibmeister at some point to make them crisper as I've done with most of my broader nibs. I love obliques, especially the M1000 O3B is divine with the extra line variation added by the regrind. I can adapt to most nibs and write with them but obliques are "home".

 

I'm not that excited about the IB. If they're planning to replace obliques with italics they should offer at least one additional narrower size.


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Posted 07 October 2013 - 10:57

I'm not that excited about the IB. If they're planning to replace obliques with italics they should offer at least one additional narrower size.

Thankfully, there are still lots of vintage German pens out there that have crisp oblique nibs, so why buy a new one? ;)



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Posted 07 October 2013 - 18:14

Thankfully, there are still lots of vintage German pens out there that have crisp oblique nibs, so why buy a new one? ;)

 

I am a lefty overwriter so all obliques don't work for me. Stubs and italics are my happy place.



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Posted 11 October 2013 - 20:55

If worst comes to worst I will just get John Mottishaw to make me one using rhodium wire...



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Posted 12 October 2013 - 10:54

Oh, I completely forgot to inform:

 

- the future will only show F / M / B and the IB for the M800

 

- all the other nibs will not bei produced in the future

 

- but all of them are still on stock, so they are still orderable and ready to be changed in case of the wish of having another nib in a new pen - and the stock seems to be veeeery big

 

And what is even more important from my point of view:

 

Pelikan will verify with open eyes, what the customer orders in the future - there are decisions, that can be changed...


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Posted 12 October 2013 - 20:45

Glad I grabbed a bunch of 3B M1000 from Regina while I still had funds.

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Posted 12 October 2013 - 21:52

Oh, I completely forgot to inform:

 

- the future will only show F / M / B and the IB for the M800

 

- all the other nibs will not bei produced in the future

 

- but all of them are still on stock, so they are still orderable and ready to be changed in case of the wish of having another nib in a new pen - and the stock seems to be veeeery big

 

And what is even more important from my point of view:

 

Pelikan will verify with open eyes, what the customer orders in the future - there are decisions, that can be changed...

 

To confirm, did you mean to miss off the EF nib as that previously had been considered 'safe'



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Posted 13 October 2013 - 14:56

 

To confirm, did you mean to miss off the EF nib as that previously had been considered 'safe'

 

I do not know if it was confirmed as "safe" - but in the list I received, the EF is not mentioned any more.

 

At the end it was the the same problem as with all the other discontinued nibs:

 

- either it has never been ordered

- or most of the pens delivered with that nib had been changed to another nib size after being sold


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Posted 13 October 2013 - 21:01

Self fulfilling prophesy. No advertising of availability & hordes of uneducated sales people parroting the accountants' mantra that people only want M nibs. For if that is all they know & all they have, that's all they buy.

Sigh...

#59 georges zaslavsky

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Posted 13 October 2013 - 21:38

Glad I grabbed a bunch of 3B M1000 from Regina while I still had funds.

You did the right thing knowing your fondness for huge nibs ;) :thumbup:


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Posted 13 October 2013 - 21:39

Self fulfilling prophesy. No advertising of availability & hordes of uneducated sales people parroting the accountants' mantra that people only want M nibs. For if that is all they know & all they have, that's all they buy.

Sigh...

Sales people in most of cases are very ignorant of what people need or like and don't know how to sell pens.


Edited by georges zaslavsky, 13 October 2013 - 21:39.

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