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Help Me Decide Between These 10 Pens.

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#21 CoolFool

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Posted 24 July 2013 - 04:46

I've never owned or used any of those pens except Edison.  I have become stuck on Edison... And Newton.  With an Edison pen (since you mentioned custom), you can't go wrong.  You can choose the materials and the nib style.  You can do a little of the mix and match thing even with the "furniture."  So the pen will suit your tastes, and could possibly be one of a kind if that sort of thing appeals to you.  

 

You'd might as well consider Newton while you're at it. Newton pens run a little cheaper, but he's more flexible on materials and shape.  He even had a custom acrylic made to match a photo I sent him.  You want get a fancy box, and it takes a while to receive a Newton, but it's worth it.

 

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Posted 25 July 2013 - 22:46

After much internal debate and some pricing differences, I will be getting a Visconti HS Bronze. Now I need to figure out which one.


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Posted 25 July 2013 - 23:12

If you like the Sailor nib, you will most likely like the Platinum nib.  That is a great price for a great pen. I also have a T-Flex nib on a Model T, and a previous poster is right, it is a disputed nib. It requires, at least as far as I am concerned, a very light hand. 



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Posted 25 July 2013 - 23:58

Aurora or Sailor for me..the delta would be nice too...


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Posted 26 July 2013 - 02:08

The Sailor or the Aurora. 

 

At the risk of sounding like a grammar priss, it's "choose among" not "choose between". You have more than two things to choose among. Between is reserved for only two object. So, choose between two objects, if you have three or more objects, you have to choose among. 



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Posted 30 July 2013 - 00:55

Which of the Home Sapiens did you choose?



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Posted 30 July 2013 - 01:01

Delta piston filler or the Stipula Rainbow, though I replaced the Ti nib in mine with a 14k Visconti nib.


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Posted 30 July 2013 - 01:19

I went with the Maxi over the Midi because it had a larger nib, first and foremost. I also have a Pelikan M600 which is close in size to the Midi, and I find it to be on the small side. I also just like the larger and longer grip section.


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Posted 30 July 2013 - 07:56

I went with the Maxi over the Midi because it had a larger nib, first and foremost. I also have a Pelikan M600 which is close in size to the Midi, and I find it to be on the small side. I also just like the larger and longer grip section.

How does it write?


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Posted 30 July 2013 - 10:07

Deleted...thought I'd 'lost' the post and rewrote it to rave more and better on the Geha 725.


Edited by Bo Bo Olson, 30 July 2013 - 11:04.

German vintage '50-70 semi-flex stubs and those in oblique give the real thing in On Demand line variation. Modern Oblique is a waste of money for a shadow of line variation. Being too lazy to Hunt for affordable vintage oblique pens, lets you 'hunt' for line variation instead of having it.

www.nibs.com/blog/nibster-writes/nibs-germany & https://www.peter-bo...cts/nib-systems,

 

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#31 Bo Bo Olson

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 11:02

'most elegant black modern pen' look in search, page 6.

If I could link I'd be dangerous...and while looking for this I wiped out the post, explaining what a semi-flex is.

Semi-flex is not a 'flex' nib. :gaah: :wallbash: .

Semi-flex uses half the pressure  needed to well mash a regular flex  3 X a light down stroke.

It can be used by the ham fisted. It gives you that soft ride you want. It makes the first letter and part of the last letter of a word a bit wider. It is often a wet writer. A wonderful ride....I got 26 of them.

 

I have 13 'flexi/maxi-semi-flex, also only spreads it's tines only 3 X a light down stroke, but a 1/4th the pressure of a well mashed regular flex, or half as much as semi-flex.

Flex pens spread their tines 4-5-6 X a light down stroke. Covered often elsewhere.

 

I've 5,000 rants on the semi-flex...pick any.

 

In you are spending big money (€100+) :D , I recommend the Geha 725 a pen I rave often about. The sleekest black and gold pen I own...and I own 20-25 black and gold pens. And a lot cheaper than that modern 'junk'. :angry:

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Sleek, classic, rolled gold trim. gold disk on both sides. It is amazing what a great designer can do with a couple of lines on a clip. Great inlaid nib, semi-flex...F is mine. I have not noticed a nib size marker so think it only came in F. I could be wrong...ask Penboard.de. A good place to get one.

 

A medium-large slim pen; one of the three for me perfectly balanced pens (each very different from each other.)

The 725 is my # 3, pen, my #1 non-oblique pen. My #1 pen is a standard sized slightly thicker girthed back weighted MB 234 1/2 Deluxe ('53-55 only) with a semi-flex KOB nib, also one of my perfectly balanced pens..

# 2, is a regular girthed Pelikan 400NN with a 'flexi'/maxi-semi-flex OF. The Geha 725  has a tad better for me balance, but the 400NN is a superb pen at #2 because of it's 'flexi' nib.

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In the early '60s Geha set out to catch MB, and Did...IMO passed them, with the Geha 725..it was also rolled gold not gold platted; and the nib could stand eye to eye with MB and not Blink.

One of the most beautifully deigned pens of all time.

It had been over my budget, I lucked into one on English Ebay under budget and kicked my self for not breaking budget (€70) and getting it sooner.

This pen is pure class in all ways.

 

I have one, if it came in different colors I'd have one of each color.

Affordable €100 or so(last year's price before the big jump in this years prices by everyone). Last year it was @ €100 Penboard.De, can hunt in the wild of German Ebay for less.But you want 100% yep not screwed up; top condition of a name in Vintage pen selling. (Do check the Com's sale section too.)

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Seeing what you want to throw away on a modern pen..I'd play it safe and buy by Penboard for a trouble free buy..If they don't have one...Reserve it!!!!.

 

I'd only buy the Italian pens you are interested in in vintage semi-flex.

Why should I throw my money away on inferior modern nibs?

 

Edison can make his regular flex nibs semi-flex upon request....therefore IMO moving his nib's in semi-flex out of the inferior modern list.

I don't know if he adjusts/flattens the tipping.

  I like the flatter tipping of Geha, Pelikan or MB German '50-60's that gives you a 'sharp' line that seems missing a bit on those pens with the American bump under the nib tip.

 

As noobie, with a handfull of other '50's German pens, I thought some idiot took a file or took the nib to the stone...because the American bump I was use to was not there....nope, that was made for a reason of a sharp line. Some call slightly stubbish in pattern.

 

I start getting the American bump on some second tier German pens in semi-flex in the '60's. Not the Geha's out side the school pens, the Pelikan 120 a school pen has a semi-flattened American bump...but that was for school kids.

The Big German four, MB, Pelikan, Geha, or Kaweco seemed to have stayed with the German flatter tip, longer.

 

In that I don't collect after '66, I don't know when they went over to the the American Bump. Both my '90's Pelikans have a small American Bump.

 

Geha was the main competition of Pelikan and Kaweco in the '50's-70's. There is more to the story than that, but Pelikan bought them up in 1990 and closed them down.

 

If you were going to spend less I'd recommend the Geha 790 :thumbup: or the Pelikan 140 :thumbup: both are semi-flex..

 

It might still be possible to get an Aurora with a semi-flex nib (ask at the factory). I know there were making them 5-6 years ago. I did not buy the Aurora Verdi, buying a MB Woolf instead, and the Verdi was semi-flex....but it did not beat my Geha 725 which I took to the B&M to nib check against.

 

The only reason two of my 14 vintage oblique nibs with some flex are ahead of this Geha 725 is I really, really like vintage German obliques, with  semi-flex or 'flexi'/maxi-semi-flex.

I don't like modern obliques at all....they don't give me the line variation I demand.

 

It is easily number one of mine for non-oblique pens. The MB  KOB is a Waverly tip, the 400NN is a 'flexi'/maxi-semi-flex. So out of my semi-flex nibs my Geha 725 is #2.

 

The Lamy Persona in that half-arsed link, is also a great pen, if you want a nail...which you don't.


Edited by Bo Bo Olson, 30 July 2013 - 11:45.

German vintage '50-70 semi-flex stubs and those in oblique give the real thing in On Demand line variation. Modern Oblique is a waste of money for a shadow of line variation. Being too lazy to Hunt for affordable vintage oblique pens, lets you 'hunt' for line variation instead of having it.

www.nibs.com/blog/nibster-writes/nibs-germany & https://www.peter-bo...cts/nib-systems,

 

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Posted 30 July 2013 - 17:05

I would go for the Delta.







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