Since this thread is revived, I am wondering--now that Pelikan's 'F' is to all intents and purposes an 'M', what does one order to get a true 'fine' that is not 'extra-fine'? Does 'EF' run wider sometimes? And when did the shift occur to making wider-running nibs?
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Posted 20 February 2014 - 07:47
It seems that my modern M800 EF nib runs a little wide and you might call it an F. Here are a few more writing samples:
Pens used are Montblanc 246 F (ca. 1948, running pretty wet), Pelikan M800 EF (2013), Visconti Homo Sapiens Bronze F (2014) and Montblanc Carlo Collodi F (2011). Here are the business ends of these pens:
Please note that each pen is filled with a different ink, making this "test" rather unscientific. The M800 is also my only Pelikan, so I have no other model to compare it to. Hope this is still useful.
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Posted 20 February 2014 - 21:21
Yes, that's very helpful. Thank you for taking the time to do some more samples, pmhudepo! I guess my tastes are changing. I used to like finer lines,
but now extra-fine seems too fine for me; still, having a hard time adjusting to medium. The F and 'EF' do look pretty consistent though on your page.
Posted 10 August 2019 - 06:13
Chris, my writing sample was written with my Pelikan M800 EF using Pelikan Edelstein Topaz ink on Clairefontaine french-ruled paper.
Hope this helps with your decision ;-)
What a beautiful writing!
Posted 22 August 2019 - 04:17
I have no idea whether my M200 steel F nib is typical, but it seems to be capable of leaving at least as narrow a horizontal line reliably as either of the EF nibs.
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Posted 31 August 2019 - 22:26
Forgot to mention the tear drop tipped, semi-vintage shaped tipping '82-97 (of the '88-now 200), runs @ 1/2 a width narrower than the round ball modnern 400/600 semi-nail, 800 nail or 1000 regular flex nibs.
So springy regular flex semi-vintage '82-97 and the 200 will be thinner than modern.
Vintage will also be that 1/2 a width thinner but has a softer semi-flex nib that will spread it's tines perhaps too easy for you.
The Japanese make a XXF nib they call EF.....you could look at that too, if very skinny is an absolute must.
German vintage '50-70 semi-flex stubs and those in oblique give the real thing in On Demand line variation. Modern Oblique is a waste of money for a shadow of line variation. Being too lazy to Hunt for affordable vintage oblique pens, lets you 'hunt' for line variation instead of having it.
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